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Post by brother on Feb 9, 2024 11:42:51 GMT -6
I have confidence that once our young fans and students are exposed to the mouth breathers from Pike County, they will learn to hate them as much as I do.
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Post by bigboi on Feb 9, 2024 15:39:22 GMT -6
Love the new rivalry with KSU. I honestly think if we hadn’t lost multiple times in a row to start the series, many fans would have the disdain towards them. Looking forward to beating them in Kennesaw this October.
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Post by 315logan on Feb 10, 2024 9:56:27 GMT -6
I said they are a rival, just not the rival. It's because they are a rival, but not THE rival Yet. I believe this rivalry will soon become a big one, quite possibly the big one. I'm looking forward to it.
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Post by HighSheriffOfBoom on Feb 11, 2024 15:22:51 GMT -6
As for KSU, I was born in Atlanta and raised in Marietta, and attended both Southern Tech and Kennesaw College however briefly during a break from Jax State, so I have personal reasons for getting up for this game which have nothing to do with the greater Jax State fan base. But every interaction I've had with students and younger alumni (primarily under 30) seems to indicate the Owls have moved into the top spot as our chief rival in their minds. When it comes to more traditional rivals, it appears they've mostly forgotten about Chattanooga, they're excited (but not overly so) about UAB, they're totally indifferent toward UNA, and, well, that school down in Pike County? They still want to whup 'em. But it's been so long since we've played them -- and been even longer since we were competitive with them -- that none of them were even alive when the rivalry was really hot. They know them as a historical rival, and that's about where it ends. I agree with the sentiment that KSU needs to turn things around -- and quickly -- if they want to hold onto that top spot. If we humiliate them every game, they'll take on more of a "West Georgia" role in the minds of JSU students. And if you were around for the old Gulf South Conference in the 80s and early 90s, you know that's not a good place to be. Back in the days of AOL, I had the username (and email) WhupTroy@aol.com. In 1994, when the Sound of the South played the Mid-South exhibition in Gadsden on a weekend off, I went up there to watch them. The following Monday, I got in an argument with a freshman about how out of tune their piccolos were. (They were awful. Frosh dude said they sounded fine. He didn't return the following year. Maybe he transferred to Pike County...?) In 1995, when troy state appeared on the football schedule again after a 5-year layoff, I was one of a select group of old farts in Southerners who did everything in our power to hammer home the enormity of this game. In this effort, we had the full support of Ken Bodiford, who was in only his 2nd year as director of the Southerners. He was a freshman in '83 and drum major from 1985-87, so he was a student when the rivalry was HOT. We didn't need to convince him. That said, I might have taken things a bit too far when, unbeknownst to anyone, I went down to the Goodwill, bought a cheap tacky suit for 10 bucks, took it upstairs at the Phi Mu Alpha house, stuffed it with newspapers, attached a white balloon as its head, and drew a face and hair on it to look like troy state's band director Dr. John M. Long. To insure no one had to guess at his identity, I added an adhesive name tag which said, "Hi! My name is JOHNNY LONG." I flagged down one of my fraternity brothers, and as a bonfire was about to be lit in the backyard during the first "Troy Party" in years, we carried Johnny downstairs, Weekend at Bernie's style, and after a few poetic words, heaved him onto the pyre. Most of us thought it was pretty funny. Some people were shocked and offended. "YOU BURNED A MAN IN EFFIGY!!!!" Yeah. We kinda did. Sorry. All this to say, troy state holds a special place in my heart. The special place that really hates things. They will always be my personal No. 1 rival. Distance won't change that. But having spent way too long at Jax State, I know how cyclical things can be. That freshman in '94 that I had the argument with? He had no idea why I hated troy state so much. I mean, he seriously couldn't grasp it. And it had only been FOUR YEARS at that point. It's been 22 years now. A kid born during the last game on Nov. 17, 2001, who is attending college under the traditional four-year plan, will graduate this spring. Everyone younger than that (half the seniors, and everyone junior standing or below at JSU) was born after the series ended. And they don't have crazy old farts like me on campus burning people in effigy to kickstart the hate. When the rivalry does begin again, barring a major shift in schedules, it's going to be during the early-to-mid 2030s. That kid born in 2001 will be a thirty-something. And everyone with a clear memory of the game will be in their 50s or older. They're not our main rival anymore. A special game, yes. A big game, absolutely. But the main rival will be the one the students hate the most. And right now, that's Kennesaw. I teared up reading this. How have we allowed this to happen? I get students now May dislike ksu, but what have they done. They are so Johnny come Lately. I want to crunch them. 4 or so games do not make a rival. We need JSU/tsu to get going soon. F-troy state. I hate that hellhole. |
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Post by HighSheriffOfBoom on Feb 11, 2024 15:29:28 GMT -6
As for KSU, I was born in Atlanta and raised in Marietta, and attended both Southern Tech and Kennesaw College however briefly during a break from Jax State, so I have personal reasons for getting up for this game which have nothing to do with the greater Jax State fan base. But every interaction I've had with students and younger alumni (primarily under 30) seems to indicate the Owls have moved into the top spot as our chief rival in their minds. When it comes to more traditional rivals, it appears they've mostly forgotten about Chattanooga, they're excited (but not overly so) about UAB, they're totally indifferent toward UNA, and, well, that school down in Pike County? They still want to whup 'em. But it's been so long since we've played them -- and been even longer since we were competitive with them -- that none of them were even alive when the rivalry was really hot. They know them as a historical rival, and that's about where it ends. I agree with the sentiment that KSU needs to turn things around -- and quickly -- if they want to hold onto that top spot. If we humiliate them every game, they'll take on more of a "West Georgia" role in the minds of JSU students. And if you were around for the old Gulf South Conference in the 80s and early 90s, you know that's not a good place to be. Back in the days of AOL, I had the username (and email) WhupTroy@aol.com. In 1994, when the Sound of the South played the Mid-South exhibition in Gadsden on a weekend off, I went up there to watch them. The following Monday, I got in an argument with a freshman about how out of tune their piccolos were. (They were awful. Frosh dude said they sounded fine. He didn't return the following year. Maybe he transferred to Pike County...?) In 1995, when troy state appeared on the football schedule again after a 5-year layoff, I was one of a select group of old farts in Southerners who did everything in our power to hammer home the enormity of this game. In this effort, we had the full support of Ken Bodiford, who was in only his 2nd year as director of the Southerners. He was a freshman in '83 and drum major from 1985-87, so he was a student when the rivalry was HOT. We didn't need to convince him. That said, I might have taken things a bit too far when, unbeknownst to anyone, I went down to the Goodwill, bought a cheap tacky suit for 10 bucks, took it upstairs at the Phi Mu Alpha house, stuffed it with newspapers, attached a white balloon as its head, and drew a face and hair on it to look like troy state's band director Dr. John M. Long. To insure no one had to guess at his identity, I added an adhesive name tag which said, "Hi! My name is JOHNNY LONG." I flagged down one of my fraternity brothers, and as a bonfire was about to be lit in the backyard during the first "Troy Party" in years, we carried Johnny downstairs, Weekend at Bernie's style, and after a few poetic words, heaved him onto the pyre. Most of us thought it was pretty funny. Some people were shocked and offended. "YOU BURNED A MAN IN EFFIGY!!!!" Yeah. We kinda did. Sorry. All this to say, troy state holds a special place in my heart. The special place that really hates things. They will always be my personal No. 1 rival. Distance won't change that. But having spent way too long at Jax State, I know how cyclical things can be. That freshman in '94 that I had the argument with? He had no idea why I hated troy state so much. I mean, he seriously couldn't grasp it. And it had only been FOUR YEARS at that point. It's been 22 years now. A kid born during the last game on Nov. 17, 2001, who is attending college under the traditional four-year plan, will graduate this spring. Everyone younger than that (half the seniors, and everyone junior standing or below at JSU) was born after the series ended. And they don't have crazy old farts like me on campus burning people in effigy to kickstart the hate. When the rivalry does begin again, barring a major shift in schedules, it's going to be during the early-to-mid 2030s. That kid born in 2001 will be a thirty-something. And everyone with a clear memory of the game will be in their 50s or older. They're not our main rival anymore. A special game, yes. A big game, absolutely. But the main rival will be the one the students hate the most. And right now, that's Kennesaw. I teared up reading this. How have we allowed this to happen? I get students now May dislike ksu, but what have they done. They are so Johnny come Lately. I want to crunch them. 4 or so games do not make a rival. We need JSU/tsu to get going soon. F-troy state. I hate that hellhole. I just cold asked my 15 year old who our rival is. He immediately replied “troy state.” We are doing our part. |
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Post by gemofthehills on Feb 12, 2024 6:51:36 GMT -6
Back in the days of AOL, I had the username (and email) WhupTroy@aol.com. In 1994, when the Sound of the South played the Mid-South exhibition in Gadsden on a weekend off, I went up there to watch them. The following Monday, I got in an argument with a freshman about how out of tune their piccolos were. (They were awful. Frosh dude said they sounded fine. He didn't return the following year. Maybe he transferred to Pike County...?) In 1995, when troy state appeared on the football schedule again after a 5-year layoff, I was one of a select group of old farts in Southerners who did everything in our power to hammer home the enormity of this game. In this effort, we had the full support of Ken Bodiford, who was in only his 2nd year as director of the Southerners. He was a freshman in '83 and drum major from 1985-87, so he was a student when the rivalry was HOT. We didn't need to convince him. That said, I might have taken things a bit too far when, unbeknownst to anyone, I went down to the Goodwill, bought a cheap tacky suit for 10 bucks, took it upstairs at the Phi Mu Alpha house, stuffed it with newspapers, attached a white balloon as its head, and drew a face and hair on it to look like troy state's band director Dr. John M. Long. To insure no one had to guess at his identity, I added an adhesive name tag which said, "Hi! My name is JOHNNY LONG." I flagged down one of my fraternity brothers, and as a bonfire was about to be lit in the backyard during the first "Troy Party" in years, we carried Johnny downstairs, Weekend at Bernie's style, and after a few poetic words, heaved him onto the pyre. Most of us thought it was pretty funny. Some people were shocked and offended. "YOU BURNED A MAN IN EFFIGY!!!!" Yeah. We kinda did. Sorry. All this to say, troy state holds a special place in my heart. The special place that really hates things. They will always be my personal No. 1 rival. Distance won't change that. But having spent way too long at Jax State, I know how cyclical things can be. That freshman in '94 that I had the argument with? He had no idea why I hated troy state so much. I mean, he seriously couldn't grasp it. And it had only been FOUR YEARS at that point. It's been 22 years now. A kid born during the last game on Nov. 17, 2001, who is attending college under the traditional four-year plan, will graduate this spring. Everyone younger than that (half the seniors, and everyone junior standing or below at JSU) was born after the series ended. And they don't have crazy old farts like me on campus burning people in effigy to kickstart the hate. When the rivalry does begin again, barring a major shift in schedules, it's going to be during the early-to-mid 2030s. That kid born in 2001 will be a thirty-something. And everyone with a clear memory of the game will be in their 50s or older. They're not our main rival anymore. A special game, yes. A big game, absolutely. But the main rival will be the one the students hate the most. And right now, that's Kennesaw. I teared up reading this. How have we allowed this to happen? I get students now May dislike ksu, but what have they done. They are so Johnny come Lately. I want to crunch them. 4 or so games do not make a rival. We need JSU/tsu to get going soon. F-troy state. I hate that hellhole. On tory state, I just see us moving on past them fairly quick. Our position is quite better than theirs with our location. Remember we are new at FBS but our quality of play has already reached their level. No we didnt win a conference championship but we are not playing in the SBC either. |
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Post by pubdaze on Feb 12, 2024 8:01:32 GMT -6
As for KSU, I was born in Atlanta and raised in Marietta, and attended both Southern Tech and Kennesaw College however briefly during a break from Jax State, so I have personal reasons for getting up for this game which have nothing to do with the greater Jax State fan base. But every interaction I've had with students and younger alumni (primarily under 30) seems to indicate the Owls have moved into the top spot as our chief rival in their minds. When it comes to more traditional rivals, it appears they've mostly forgotten about Chattanooga, they're excited (but not overly so) about UAB, they're totally indifferent toward UNA, and, well, that school down in Pike County? They still want to whup 'em. But it's been so long since we've played them -- and been even longer since we were competitive with them -- that none of them were even alive when the rivalry was really hot. They know them as a historical rival, and that's about where it ends. I agree with the sentiment that KSU needs to turn things around -- and quickly -- if they want to hold onto that top spot. If we humiliate them every game, they'll take on more of a "West Georgia" role in the minds of JSU students. And if you were around for the old Gulf South Conference in the 80s and early 90s, you know that's not a good place to be. Back in the days of AOL, I had the username (and email) WhupTroy@aol.com. In 1994, when the Sound of the South played the Mid-South exhibition in Gadsden on a weekend off, I went up there to watch them. The following Monday, I got in an argument with a freshman about how out of tune their piccolos were. (They were awful. Frosh dude said they sounded fine. He didn't return the following year. Maybe he transferred to Pike County...?) In 1995, when troy state appeared on the football schedule again after a 5-year layoff, I was one of a select group of old farts in Southerners who did everything in our power to hammer home the enormity of this game. In this effort, we had the full support of Ken Bodiford, who was in only his 2nd year as director of the Southerners. He was a freshman in '83 and drum major from 1985-87, so he was a student when the rivalry was HOT. We didn't need to convince him. That said, I might have taken things a bit too far when, unbeknownst to anyone, I went down to the Goodwill, bought a cheap tacky suit for 10 bucks, took it upstairs at the Phi Mu Alpha house, stuffed it with newspapers, attached a white balloon as its head, and drew a face and hair on it to look like troy state's band director Dr. John M. Long. To insure no one had to guess at his identity, I added an adhesive name tag which said, "Hi! My name is JOHNNY LONG." I flagged down one of my fraternity brothers, and as a bonfire was about to be lit in the backyard during the first "Troy Party" in years, we carried Johnny downstairs, Weekend at Bernie's style, and after a few poetic words, heaved him onto the pyre. Most of us thought it was pretty funny. Some people were shocked and offended. "YOU BURNED A MAN IN EFFIGY!!!!" Yeah. We kinda did. Sorry. All this to say, troy state holds a special place in my heart. The special place that really hates things. They will always be my personal No. 1 rival. Distance won't change that. But having spent way too long at Jax State, I know how cyclical things can be. That freshman in '94 that I had the argument with? He had no idea why I hated troy state so much. I mean, he seriously couldn't grasp it. And it had only been FOUR YEARS at that point. It's been 22 years now. A kid born during the last game on Nov. 17, 2001, who is attending college under the traditional four-year plan, will graduate this spring. Everyone younger than that (half the seniors, and everyone junior standing or below at JSU) was born after the series ended. And they don't have crazy old farts like me on campus burning people in effigy to kickstart the hate. When the rivalry does begin again, barring a major shift in schedules, it's going to be during the early-to-mid 2030s. That kid born in 2001 will be a thirty-something. And everyone with a clear memory of the game will be in their 50s or older. They're not our main rival anymore. A special game, yes. A big game, absolutely. But the main rival will be the one the students hate the most. And right now, that's Kennesaw. "And they don't have crazy old farts like me on campus burning people in effigy to kickstart the hate". Therein lies the problem... |
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