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Post by Cleburneslim on Jul 21, 2021 20:31:51 GMT -6
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Post by gemofthehills on Jul 21, 2021 20:37:25 GMT -6
Just a reaction to JSU announcing the stadium improvements. This could have some fallout throughout all of DI athletics.
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Post by Cleburneslim on Jul 21, 2021 21:08:43 GMT -6
Step one in what will end up being a new division in football. The split will be here soon. Perhaps this is the reason for the wac and asun fbs aspirations.
Soon to be p4 and g7.
Or 8 or 9
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Post by Whup Em All on Jul 22, 2021 8:28:53 GMT -6
Just a reaction to JSU announcing the stadium improvements. This could have some fallout throughout all of DI athletics. Step 1: JSU announces stadium improvements/expansion. Step 2: Texas and Oklahoma ask to join the SEC. Steps 3-4: ? ? ? Step 5: JSU to the SEC. All this in just five simple and totally realistic steps!
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Post by pubdaze on Jul 22, 2021 12:24:36 GMT -6
Just a reaction to JSU announcing the stadium improvements. This could have some fallout throughout all of DI athletics. Step 1: JSU announces stadium improvements/expansion. Step 2: Texas and Oklahoma ask to join the SEC. Steps 3-4: ? ? ? Step 5: JSU to the SEC. All this in just five simple and totally realistic steps! For the low, low price of just $19.99. Shipping and handling fees not included.
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Post by troysux on Jul 22, 2021 12:35:26 GMT -6
I know you are joking about the SEC but this could have ripple effects that impact us.
The Big XII would have to start grabbing people to stay alive. They likely poach the AAC.
The AAC then poaches the Sun Belt and CUSA.
The Sun Belt and CUSA reach down into the FCS. One of them grabs Kennesaw because they deliver the Atlanta market. One gets desperate and takes EKU.
This kills Gumball’s football league so we get stuck in the Big South and go to New Jersey and Bob Morris every other year.
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Post by Cleburneslim on Jul 22, 2021 20:00:54 GMT -6
Just a reaction to JSU announcing the stadium improvements. This could have some fallout throughout all of DI athletics. Step 1: JSU announces stadium improvements/expansion. Step 2: Texas and Oklahoma ask to join the SEC. Steps 3-4: ? ? ? Step 5: JSU to the SEC. All this in just five simple and totally realistic steps! Without doubt this is. Totally realistic and as far as I can tell a near certainty.
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Post by Cleburneslim on Jul 22, 2021 20:03:27 GMT -6
I know you are joking about the SEC but this could have ripple effects that impact us. The Big XII would have to start grabbing people to stay alive. They likely poach the AAC. The AAC then poaches the Sun Belt and CUSA. The Sun Belt and CUSA reach down into the FCS. One of them grabs Kennesaw because they deliver the Atlanta market. One gets desperate and takes EKU. This kills Gumball’s football league so we get stuck in the Big South and go to New Jersey and Bob Morris every other year. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk You think it's stopping at 2? What about Kansas + 1 to the BIG and tx tech and one more to the Pac If it happens to fast the AAC may poach from the Big 12.
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Post by Whup Em All on Jul 23, 2021 19:41:09 GMT -6
I know you are joking about the SEC but this could have ripple effects that impact us. The Big XII would have to start grabbing people to stay alive. They likely poach the AAC. The AAC then poaches the Sun Belt and CUSA. The Sun Belt and CUSA reach down into the FCS. One of them grabs Kennesaw because they deliver the Atlanta market. One gets desperate and takes EKU. This kills Gumball’s football league so we get stuck in the Big South and go to New Jersey and Bob Morris every other year. Who says I'm joking?! In all seriousness, though, your nightmare scenario is one I've considered. I could see either CUSA or the Sun Belt biting the bullet and inviting Liberty. Falwell is gone, easing the political ramifications at least a bit, and Liberty's money, facilities, and recent athletic successes in most sports are hard to ignore. If I were running one of those conferences, I'd invite them yesterday. Losing Liberty would weaken the ASUN's OLY cred considerably. JMU could be targeted by one of them as well. The Dukes may have burned some bridges with the Sun Belt a few years ago, but wounds like that heal quickly when Armageddon is upon us. Kennesaw would need to scramble to get their stadium (at least) up to FBS standards. That, and their terrible hoops, are the biggest (only?) obstacles to an FBS invite. As you said, that ATL market is huge. Delaware might get a look. Not sure of their interest, but they were another one mentioned as an expansion target in the last decade. If the interest is there, the Newark/Philadelphia market would probably outweigh Jacksonville/Bham, at least in the eyes of the conference leadership lizard people. NCAT is 100% interested in moving up, and would do so in a heartbeat if invited. Being the first FBS conference to invite an HBCU would definitely play well politically. That can't be discounted. It could be enough to put them a notch above us on the draft board. UTC always seems to come up in the FBS expansion discussions. Why? I dunno. But based on that, I'd have to believe they'd get a bid before us, even if they don't deserve it. EKU... Just as with UTC, I'm still trying to figure out how they wound up ahead of us on the Sun Belt's draft board. But I'd have to assume nothing's changed. So they'd get a bid before us. UCA has also been VERY vocal about moving up. Like KSU, their lack of hoops success would be a hindrance, but their location out west -- but not TOO far west -- would possibly bring them into the conversation. That's seven potential schools getting invitations from CUSA/SBC before JSU (whether they deserve it or not). It's scary as hell, and that's without considering a few other HBCU wildcards, like FAMU, Jackson State, and even TSU. This is why I'm holding out hope for the SEC. Hey, it's Armageddon. Things happen.
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Post by Cleburneslim on Jul 23, 2021 20:40:04 GMT -6
I'm gonna respectfully disagree on a few of these.
The hatred liberty got from the sun belt was historic. I'm not sure they'd want sbc affiliation.
Utc was invited didn't want fbs still dont.
Jmu already said a solid no way in heck to the sbc.
Delaware could you imagine the travel expenses they'd incurr for the lowly sbc. I'd and probably they'd prefer fcs. Besides if they wanted sbc they probably could have had it already.
For sure, eku and KSU are ahead of us. Facilities don't seem to matter consider coastals high school stadium and the pathetic group they call attendance.
Ncat and UCA also would be in before us.
That's leaving out the new Texas 4 wac schools Sammy I'm sure with the NC would be ahead of us also.
But with the likely tectonic shift that appears to be happening, Although in slow motion it seems, it seems very likely and possible a whole group move together. Especially since it appears conferences will be allowed to make their own rules.
I predicted years ago and still believe the p5 is taking their ball and leaving. Everything will be turned upside down and a lot of g5 schools will be humbled, when they discover they weren't so necessary or valuable to fbs and in fact will need fcs schools to step up.
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Post by troysux on Jul 24, 2021 10:15:16 GMT -6
I know you are joking about the SEC but this could have ripple effects that impact us. The Big XII would have to start grabbing people to stay alive. They likely poach the AAC. The AAC then poaches the Sun Belt and CUSA. The Sun Belt and CUSA reach down into the FCS. One of them grabs Kennesaw because they deliver the Atlanta market. One gets desperate and takes EKU. This kills Gumball’s football league so we get stuck in the Big South and go to New Jersey and Bob Morris every other year. Who says I'm joking?! In all seriousness, though, your nightmare scenario is one I've considered. I could see either CUSA or the Sun Belt biting the bullet and inviting Liberty. Falwell is gone, easing the political ramifications at least a bit, and Liberty's money, facilities, and recent athletic successes in most sports are hard to ignore. If I were running one of those conferences, I'd invite them yesterday. Losing Liberty would weaken the ASUN's OLY cred considerably. JMU could be targeted by one of them as well. The Dukes may have burned some bridges with the Sun Belt a few years ago, but wounds like that heal quickly when Armageddon is upon us. Kennesaw would need to scramble to get their stadium (at least) up to FBS standards. That, and their terrible hoops, are the biggest (only?) obstacles to an FBS invite. As you said, that ATL market is huge. Delaware might get a look. Not sure of their interest, but they were another one mentioned as an expansion target in the last decade. If the interest is there, the Newark/Philadelphia market would probably outweigh Jacksonville/Bham, at least in the eyes of the conference leadership lizard people. NCAT is 100% interested in moving up, and would do so in a heartbeat if invited. Being the first FBS conference to invite an HBCU would definitely play well politically. That can't be discounted. It could be enough to put them a notch above us on the draft board. UTC always seems to come up in the FBS expansion discussions. Why? I dunno. But based on that, I'd have to believe they'd get a bid before us, even if they don't deserve it. EKU... Just as with UTC, I'm still trying to figure out how they wound up ahead of us on the Sun Belt's draft board. But I'd have to assume nothing's changed. So they'd get a bid before us. UCA has also been VERY vocal about moving up. Like KSU, their lack of hoops success would be a hindrance, but their location out west -- but not TOO far west -- would possibly bring them into the conversation. That's seven potential schools getting invitations from CUSA/SBC before JSU (whether they deserve it or not). It's scary as hell, and that's without considering a few other HBCU wildcards, like FAMU, Jackson State, and even TSU. This is why I'm holding out hope for the SEC. Hey, it's Armageddon. Things happen. I was just pointing out the flip side to the sunshine pumping Pollyannas who will say how this benefits us. Still not ready to drink the Koolade Gumball is serving. Glad you liked (or just bothered to read) it. I do think Liberty might be more viable now that Falwell has stepped down to spend more time with his wife and pool boy. James Madison would be a good travel partner for them. UTC doesn’t sponsor baseball so that could be an issue. All of the Sun Belt does while two C-USA members (N. Texas and UTEP) don’t. So if C-USA was stuck at an odd number they might overlook that if adding them didn’t screw up baseball scheduling. Kennesaw does need to expand their stadium to get to FBS standards and right now they aren’t even close. So just adding some end zone bleachers won’t cut it. It requires major construction and major money. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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Post by Cleburneslim on Jul 24, 2021 14:15:24 GMT -6
The last time I went through Kennesaw it looked like there was plenty of funds to go around. I'm sure money is not the problem.
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Post by JSUSoutherner on Jul 24, 2021 16:07:36 GMT -6
The last time I went through Kennesaw it looked like there was plenty of funds to go around. I'm sure money is not the problem. Yeah cause Kennesaw does what I wish JSU would do: Give a damn about academics.
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Post by Cleburneslim on Jul 24, 2021 17:16:00 GMT -6
It's got a lot to do with the lottery money also.
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Post by JSUSoutherner on Jul 24, 2021 17:44:55 GMT -6
It's got a lot to do with the *redacted* money also. Oh gosh don't use such a satanic word here. The blue hairs might spit out their Ensure.
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