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Post by gemofthehills on Jul 24, 2021 20:37:19 GMT -6
It's got a lot to do with the *redacted* money also. Oh gosh don't use such a satanic word here. The blue hairs might spit out their Ensure. Not the blue hairs but the Indians holding back the lottery.
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Post by gemofthehills on Jul 25, 2021 10:50:51 GMT -6
Will the lower level FBS survive and stay connected to the big guys? Or will they be put out to pasture with no games against P5(?) schools.
If talk radio is correct, OU and UTA fans have a great desire to play more good opponents. Lots of complaints about games against the Kansas' of the world.
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Post by ntxgamecock on Jul 25, 2021 11:16:21 GMT -6
Will the lower level FBS survive and stay connected to the big guys? Or will they be put out to pasture with no games against P5(?) schools. If talk radio is correct, OU and UTA fans have a great desire to play more good opponents. Lots of complaints about games against the Kansas' of the world. OU and UT (UTA is actually in Arlington) are tired of being the bell cows of the Big XII (no pun intended). They have finally realized that A&M was right when they left. That UT’s controlling/demanding attitude and selfish inequitable money splits hurt the entire league, including themselves, in the long run. A&M has grown and is beginning to thrive in the SEC. they shouldn’t be concerned about UT coming in. They won’t lose any recruits to them that they would have gotten anyway. Impact on them will be minimal. Yes, it will make winning a conference championship a little tougher overall, but depending on conference alignment, it may make it a little easier to play for one. OU and UT certainly will have a tougher time competing for one. I doubt the UT faithful, nor many of the OU faithful, have any idea how exponentially tougher things just got for them football wise. As for FCS, it will depend on what happens next. I’m kind of leaning toward the four super conferences leaving the NCAA in football only. Then the NCAA may realign everything. It may have been perfect timing (if not a smidge late) for the ASun and WAC to happen. Those two could join what’s left of the g5 to form the new D-I while some of the under-funded FCS could become part of the new D-II. May have to come up with some new names so it doesn’t sound like they’ve been relegated. The ASun/WAC may want to continue what we’ve got this year. If they joined forces and maybe poached some Dakota/Montana schools or JMU, they’d be prime to move the entire conference up to the new D-I/G-5 level, whatever we call it. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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Post by Whup Em All on Jul 27, 2021 10:06:07 GMT -6
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Post by Whup Em All on Jul 27, 2021 10:20:33 GMT -6
This is an interesting idea, but while it makes sense for a current football-only league to support this sort of plan, it doesn't make any sense for the everyone else. A new football-only league would necessitate the lesser leagues (i.e., Sun Belt and CUSA) being OK with their top marquee names jumping ship for football while staying in the league for other sports.
Sure, the ASUN lets Liberty do it, but that's one school, and it's because their football team plays FBS ball, not FCS (and when it was approved, the ASUN didn't offer football at all).
But imagine the Sun Belt being OK with a plan that pulls out App State, Coastal Carolina, and Georgia Southern but only in football.
And imagine CUSA being on board with losing Marshall and UAB, again, for football only.
If a new all-sports league forms, or if these schools are poached by an existing league, that's one thing. The Belt and CUSA would just have to deal with it. But having your top teams skip over to a bigger league just for football is not OK. At least, not for a Southern league, where college football is EVERYTHING.
I'm still waiting for someone who knows what's up to do a full (and realistic) breakdown of the dominoes which could be about to fall, starting with the Big XII, and moving on to any affected FCS teams. This article gets an A for effort, but a C-minus for execution.
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Post by troysux on Jul 27, 2021 12:40:58 GMT -6
Sponsoring football is a requirement for CUSA membership so nobody could do that. I would imagine league bylaws require everyone to have football in the league they are in for Olympics.
I also think football only leagues aren’t allowed in FBS.
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Post by Whup Em All on Jul 27, 2021 12:53:56 GMT -6
Sponsoring football is a requirement for CUSA membership so nobody could do that. I would imagine league bylaws require everyone to have football in the league they are in for Olympics. I also think football only leagues aren’t allowed in FBS. In today's climate, anything could change. Rules and bylaws are so 20th century... But regardless of that, it doesn't make sense for most conferences to allow it. I mean, if a basketball-centric conference that didn't really support football (say, the Big East) wanted to allow its football playing member(s) to play in another league, that's one thing. I mean, if the Big XII were to invite UConn as a football-only affiliate, then sure. It's a win-win-win. The Big East keeps UConn's OLY sports, the Big XII gets a "strong" (LOL) football member, and UConn gets to maximize the potential of all its teams. But how many conferences are like the Big East? Certainly not CUSA and the Belt. Not the AAC. (Football was one of the main reasons for the Big East/AAC split.) It's safe to say the MAC conference needs football as much as the more southern leagues. So basically ... UConn is it. And they'd be a horrible fit for the Big XII. I just don't see any "football only" leagues forming, even if the bylaws are changed. EDITOR'S NOTE: UConn wouldn't even require a bylaw change. They've left the AAC, never plan to return, and will play as an Indy until/unless a better offer comes their way. Since the only conference better than the AAC that might be interested would be the Big XII, the chances of this happening are a peg or two above nil.
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Post by troysux on Jul 27, 2021 12:55:28 GMT -6
Unless the Big XII commissioner is an idiot, he has already reached out to at least four of the following:
Houston Memphis Cincinnati USF UCF SMU
Edit…The MAC has had a few football onlys through the years, but they were just schools needing a spot to land temporarily.
I don’t see the Big XII offering UCONN unless they got really desperate. They add zero in football and are way out of the footprint. UCONN wouldn’t want to leave Big East basketball.
There are enough FBS independents now to form a quasi-conference so scheduling isn’t a huge problem.
Big East football was a marriage destined to fail. A huge league where half are football oriented and the other half (plus Notre Dame) doesn’t sponsor the sport was never going to work. But let’s hope the ASUN can pull it off.
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Post by gemofthehills on Jul 29, 2021 7:56:08 GMT -6
If the ASON and WAC schools are not shifted to the same level as the SBC, MAC, MW, CUSA and AAC schools during the fallout of OU/UTA both conference will announce plans to go FBS. Have to believe the rumors were out before these changes were made.
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Post by Cleburneslim on Jul 29, 2021 16:51:30 GMT -6
"I just don't see any "football only" leagues forming, even if the bylaws are changed."
I would think the Indy's and the new aq7 would jump at football only FBS. I don't however know how the wac or asun would feel about it.
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Post by Whup Em All on Jul 30, 2021 8:48:03 GMT -6
"I just don't see any "football only" leagues forming, even if the bylaws are changed." I would think the Indy's and the new aq7 would jump at football only FBS. I don't however know how the wac or asun would feel about it.That's the key issue. Would it make sense for individual schools? Absolutely. Would it make sense for their current conferences to allow it? Absolutely not. Unless said conference were planning to stop sponsoring scholarship football.
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Post by Cleburneslim on Aug 1, 2021 13:36:46 GMT -6
Question 2: if UAB is poached for the AAC, who likely will get raided by the big 8 or less, is it conceivable that little ole Jax State take their place as an representative of the Birmingham market. Which by the way is the biggest college football market in the country.
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Post by gemofthehills on Aug 1, 2021 23:20:42 GMT -6
Just dont see UAB getting picked by anyone unless they drop down to SBC.
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Post by Cleburneslim on Aug 2, 2021 3:46:26 GMT -6
Seems odd to me also but it is a good media market. And if the AAC gets raided by the big 8 or so then Cusa by AAC which might take that market. Let's face it it's about settling for what you can get. So would Cusa look to maintain the coverage they have.
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Post by troysux on Aug 2, 2021 5:36:31 GMT -6
We don’t deliver the Birmingham market any more than UAB does. But if they need a presence in Alabama we would be their only option unless they want troy state or South Alabama.
The next few weeks will be fun as the high stakes game of musical chairs is about to begin.
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