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Post by gemofthehills on Aug 2, 2021 5:45:13 GMT -6
If your looking for any market in Alabama it is UAT Auburn No one else or the rest bring as much as the other. This includes from JSU on down to troy state.
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Post by Whup Em All on Aug 2, 2021 8:33:21 GMT -6
If your looking for any market in Alabama it is UAT Auburn No one else or the rest bring as much as the other. This includes from JSU on down to troy state. I know that. You know that. We all know that. And yet... When conferences expand, markets are (or were) one of the first things they look at. That's why Georgia State is always mentioned in conference expansion talks, and why they were able to "graduate" from the ASUN to the CAA and on to the Sun Belt all those years ago, despite not budging the needle in the ATL market any more than JSU moves the needle in the Ham. An even better example is Rutgers in the Big Ten. There's some sentiment that poor-ROI moves like Rutgers may be shifting league strategies where TV markets are concerned. It's becoming more important for athletic recruiting than for university promotion. And that's where adding a team like JSU can have some value. If a league needs an Alabama presence (or a bolstered southeastern presence) to help recruiting, JSU is fairly well-positioned, with several football recruiting hotbeds within a couple hours of the campus. This means a coach can tell a prospect, "Come play with us up in (some northern state) and your friends and family can come watch you play at JSU every 2 years." That's a surprisingly effective sales pitch for kids who want to "go away to college" without cutting all ties to everyone back home.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2021 10:25:23 GMT -6
UAB plays on the worst stations with the worst announcers and the worst camera angles. Our production is 10x better than anything they put out and it still wouldn't compare to Alabama or Auburn. Nobody cares about our TV market either. I assume our viewership is in the low thousands or hundreds.
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Post by Cleburneslim on Aug 2, 2021 18:20:16 GMT -6
I suspect the markets you are in is an opening bid. The better the market the better the baseline. It also offers some idea of potential viewership. The second part of the equation is where you bring that market. Uat and au bring a bigger portion of this market than UAB or JSU.
So is ga St in a great market? Yes x amount of value
What amount of the market do they bring? 10%. X amount value more
So A+B = value of X team in X media market.
There is also the notion of potential viewership
If UAB was in Troy states market Montgomery I think. They would not be in CUSA. If Ga St was in the same market as Ga So they wouldn't be fbs. Media markets definitely matter. Is it the entirety of who goes where No. But it does get a door opened that otherwise would not open.
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Post by gemofthehills on Aug 2, 2021 20:25:55 GMT -6
Wouldnt be surprised if GaSo attracted more ATL viewers then GSU and the same for troy state v UAB in the Ham.
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Post by Cleburneslim on Aug 3, 2021 5:07:40 GMT -6
I'm sure they do yet they attract less attention from conferences.
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Post by oldkappasig on Aug 3, 2021 5:23:53 GMT -6
Best way to get immediate attention is WIN. BEAT UAB, few upsets in basketball or make THE BIG DANCE in March. I really think we have a chance. Just a matter of time.
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Post by Whup Em All on Aug 4, 2021 17:06:03 GMT -6
Not to be a downer or anything, but I've been reading and listening to a LOT of analyses of Conference Realignment Armageddon, and, well, there just aren't a lot of scenarios that put the Gamecocks in position for an invitation.
Granted, most of the talk is coming from speculative journalists and keyboard warriors who think they know everything -- *cough* -- but it's discouraging nonetheless.
I was hoping to see dominoes fall in such a way that the Sun Belt (or even CUSA) absolutely, positively had to start looking to FCS, but even the wildest scenarios only wind up with one, maybe two, FCS invites, and those almost always start with "James" and end with "Madison."
NDSU can't even get any love, for heaven's sake.
It looks like if we're ever going to go FBS, it'll either have to involve some ASUN mischief (see Gumbart's wild arse plan from January 2020) or we'll just have to do it ourselves, a la Liberty.
*weeps quietly realizing troy state doesn't love us*
LOL ... I'm not actually weeping about that. I've known it since I was 18.
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Post by Cleburneslim on Aug 4, 2021 18:40:38 GMT -6
The big 12 will need to add at least 4 to get back to 12. If you will recall the only reason the didn't go back to 12 the last time was for Texas. Trying to keep them from leave they agreed to stand Pat and not add Houston Cincy or whomever. I don't believe they will give up and dissolve mostly for the money. Besides they are in a position to add from the AAC. Several morons think the AAC will raid the big 12 but that's just stupid. The AAC and or mwc will add back the 4 missing members from Cusa and or sbc. Which in turn will get what they can which is the fcs. 2 to 4 fcs teams. That's if there are no more movement on the top. Ie Kansas Iowa St to the Big 10. Or fla St Clemson to the SEC. If there is more movement there then that also will find its way through the AAC mwc to Cusa and sbc to fcs. Will Cusa split like the mwc did from the wac. If so add one or two more fcs teams.
I see real potential for JSU to move up.
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Post by troysux on Sept 5, 2021 12:48:32 GMT -6
The next domino appears to have fallen as reports are that Central Florida, Houston, and Cincinnati are leaving the AAC for the Big XII. BYU, currently a football independent and WCC for Olympics, is also joining.
This drops the AAC to eight members. Frankly, this seems like a good number. Fewer mouths to feed and a better chance to win the conference. But they’ll probably take their pick of the SBC and C-USA.
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Post by Cleburneslim on Sept 5, 2021 15:31:32 GMT -6
The aac will need 2 at least but I'd say 4 to get to twelve and tighten footprint a bit. But 14 could be tighter still.
Jmu Uabs and or Ga St Ark St Niu maybe La tech or Western ky
Who'd you pick
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Post by beauregard on Sept 5, 2021 17:44:41 GMT -6
The aac will need 2 at least but I'd say 4 to get to twelve and tighten footprint a bit. But 14 could be tighter still. Jmu Uabs and or Ga St Ark St Niu maybe La tech or Western ky Who'd you pick Georgia Southern AP State Arkansas St. Georgia State/JMU/Coastal/Liberty Sunbelt picks up: Kennesaw ST UTC Maybe Liberty I'm normally wrong about this stuff anyways.
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Post by Cleburneslim on Sept 5, 2021 19:11:32 GMT -6
I thinks media markets will play more importance than we'd like to think
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Post by troysux on Sept 6, 2021 4:45:40 GMT -6
C-USA currently has 14 members. If they drop to 12 or even 10 I don’t see the point in expanding.
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Post by Cleburneslim on Sept 6, 2021 19:54:58 GMT -6
What if your school is on an island 1000 miles to the nearest school? What if you need to replace a departing school say uab 1 college football market. With say Ga St number 9 market I think. In order to maintain the current pay level or at the least not lose as much money.
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