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Post by toooldtocare on Nov 14, 2023 14:20:37 GMT -6
Think Mississippi State gives RichRod a call? They should, but I doubt they would consider him just yet just because they have an inflated sense of self importance ("we can get someone better"). They'd need to see some more positive results to overcome booster hesitancy I'd think. There's a reason he's coaching here right now, and it has nothing to do with his coaching ability. Not saying that's fair or right. He will get his shot at a P5 job soon enough though. Winning makes it easier to tolerate baggage. I’ve been told several times by insiders CRR is happy and his wife likes it here. It’s a case of “been there/done that”. There’s one possible reason to leave and it ain’t Mississippi state.
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Post by jsu02 on Nov 14, 2023 15:37:31 GMT -6
They should, but I doubt they would consider him just yet just because they have an inflated sense of self importance ("we can get someone better"). They'd need to see some more positive results to overcome booster hesitancy I'd think. There's a reason he's coaching here right now, and it has nothing to do with his coaching ability. Not saying that's fair or right. He will get his shot at a P5 job soon enough though. Winning makes it easier to tolerate baggage. I’ve been told several times by insiders CRR is happy and his wife likes it here. It’s a case of “been there/done that”. There’s one possible reason to leave and it ain’t Mississippi state. I would agree. There is a lot of crap he doesn't have to deal with in Jacksonville, but would at a larger program. As long as we are making a good faith effort to give him what he wants, I think he will stick around a while.
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Post by Scotti from Jax State on Nov 14, 2023 19:37:45 GMT -6
Oregon State and Wazzu were granted their injunction to control governance and finances of the PAC12, totaling $420 million. I know the departing 10 will likely appeal. However, there are talks that they will have the resources to rebuild the PAC12 if the ruling stands. What do you think that may mean for Jax State and CUSA?
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Post by stevo on Nov 14, 2023 20:42:40 GMT -6
Oregon State and Wazzu were granted their injunction to control governance and finances of the PAC12, totaling $420 million. I know the departing 10 will likely appeal. However, there are talks that they will have the resources to rebuild the PAC12 if the ruling stands. What do you think that may mean for Jax State and CUSA? I'll give it a shot. But any guesses can be ripped. PAC 2 will add the best 10 they can get: (no east time zone) 3. Boise 4. Colorado State 5. Fresno St 6. SDSU 7. UNLV 8. Utah St 9. Wyoming 10. Memphis 11. Tulane 12. UTSA Mountain West 1. Hawaii 2. Nevada 3. New Mexico 4. SJSU 5. NMSU 6. UTEP 7. La Tech 8. Sam Houston 9. Texas St Plus 1-3 FCS AAC 1. Army 2. Navy 3. Air Force 4. Charlotte 5. East Carolina 6. FAU 7. North Texas 8. Rice 9. Temple 10. Tulsa 11. UAB 12. USF 13. GA State 14. Liberty Sun Belt 12 13. KSU 14. JSU 15. MTSU 16. WKU Who wants 1. FIU (maybe Louisiana goes to the MWC with La Tech and that opens a spot for FIU in the Sun Belt) Whenever the ACC falls apart, they will add: Tulane, Rice, USF. No way am I saying this is what will happen. But I don't think it is far off. Edited after Whup brought up Texas State.
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Post by Cleburneslim on Nov 14, 2023 21:00:26 GMT -6
Pac will add an eastern division. No way Jax St ends up in the SBC.
I'm calling it now!
Jax to the Pax or maybe the AAC if UAB joins the pac.
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Post by Whup Em All on Nov 15, 2023 11:58:48 GMT -6
I'll give it a shot. But any guesses can be ripped. AAC 1. Army 2. Navy 3. Air Force 4. Charlotte 5. East Carolina 6. FAU 7. North Texas 8. Rice 9. Temple 10. Tulsa 11. UAB 12. USF 13. GA State 14. Liberty Sun Belt 13 14. JSU 15. MTSU 16. WKU Who wants 1. FIU 2. KSU I don't entirely disagree with the logic here. Jax State has helped itself tremendously by being successful out of the gate in FBS. If we'd pulled a Sammy, I fear we'd be stuck forever in the leftovers group. I do wonder, though -- and a lot of this comes down to timing -- but if the AAC were to poach Ga State, what are the odds the Belt would come after Kennesaw as a replacement? I'm not saying KSU is *ready* for the Sun Belt. They're not even ready for CUSA: undersized stadium, football fortunes stuck in rebuild mode, needed facility upgrades are 2-5 years away. I get all that. But as a replacement for Ga State, they could serve a similar purpose to what JSU did for CUSA in replacing UAB. It maintains a presence in Metro Atlanta. In fact, once their stadium plan is complete, KSU will probably be a much more attractive location for visiting fans than Ga State. The problem is, if the Belt adds JSU, MTSU, and WKU to move to 16(!) there's absolutely no vacancy for KSU. There's always the possibility Texas State moves somewhere. The Belt doesn't really want them, but the Texas State fans feel they should be in the AAC, which probably wants them even less. I don't know if they'd stoop so low as to join the revamped Mountain West, but if the financials were good enough, they'd take the place of one of those FCS teams. That would open an additional slot for KSU, and everyone would be happy: SUN BELTEAST DIVISIONJMU ODU Coastal App State Marshall Ga Southern Kennesaw Jax State WEST DIVISIONMTSU WKU troy state USA Ark State LA-La Southern Miss ULM A little weirdness with who goes east and west among JSU, troy state, WKU, MTSU, and Kennesaw, but I went with the strategy of preserving existing/hot rivalries over historical rivalries. So WKU and MTSU stay together to preserve 100 Miles of Hate. KSU and JSU stay together to preserve that rivalry. And troy state remains in the West, where their biggest current rival (USA) resides. This plan would also work if Ga State opted not to leave. It'd just mean Kennesaw would have to find a conference home elsewhere. (Not really ideal for our rivalry, but no way are KSU and Ga St going to be in the same conference, let alone the same division.) Now, the bad side: 8-team divisions are terrible. You'd almost HAVE to go with a 9-game conference schedule just so you see teams from the other division more than once every 8 years. Even then, you'd only play two intra-divisional games per year in football. You could also go with a 4-team pod approach. There are a couple of ways to set those up, either regionally (NE/SE/NW/SW) each with four permanent teams, or on a school-by-school basis, where the pods themselves have no special significance beyond determining who would be on each individual school's schedule. The latter is way too complicated for me to bother with. The former, though, actually works out pretty well: NORTHEASTJMU ODU Marshall App State SOUTHEASTCoastal Ga Southern troy state USA NORTHWESTWKU MTSU Jax State Kennesaw State SOUTHWESTArk State LA-La Southern Miss ULM Whichever method was used to determine the pods, basically, each school would play the other three teams in its pod, plus two teams from each of the other pods on a rotating basis. This would yield a 9-game schedule, but you'd play everyone else at least once every two years, and would play them at home once every four years. Not perfect, but probably as good as a 16-team conference could get. Odds of this ever happening? Without a new realignment apocalypse, courtesy of the PAC-2, probably ZERO. It may even be negative. But if the apocalypse DOES occur, I wouldn't bet against it. The Belt could do much worse than to jettison Texas State, bring back WKU & MTSU, and welcome Jax State (and potentially KSU, depending on the fate of Ga State). I think they'd actually be OK with it. It takes an already regionally tight league and makes it even tighter, without sacrificing competitiveness. In fact, it would significantly improve SBC hoops. Don't think that would be lost on the suits at the league office. They know how to count them dolla dolla bills.
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Post by stevo on Nov 15, 2023 13:40:10 GMT -6
You are right on Texas State.
I know pods are hardly ever perfect, but I would adjust the Southeast and Northwest (east central) pods:
Southeast JSU, KSU, Troy, USA
Northwest WKU, MTSU, Coastal, GSU
I believe most JSU fans would get over not playing KSU if they got Troy and USA every year.
I think we are in the apocalypse now.
But what do you do to FIU?
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Post by Cleburneslim on Nov 15, 2023 20:51:21 GMT -6
Please don't make me hob knob with those pathetic SBC fans over on the other board.
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Post by stevo on Nov 25, 2023 19:41:01 GMT -6
Anybody checking out the game on FOX?
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Post by Scotti from Jax State on Nov 25, 2023 19:50:44 GMT -6
Anybody checking out the game on FOX? The one with the snowmen running around the field?
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Post by stevo on Dec 3, 2023 20:13:26 GMT -6
Did anyone watch any of the FCS playoffs this weekend?
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Post by gemofthehills on Dec 3, 2023 20:26:49 GMT -6
Did anyone watch any of the FCS playoffs this weekend? Yes part of the Montana V Delaware but quit when I thought it was decided. Then the Idaho game but fell asleep. NDSU game was a close one. Of course the playoffs have a plains and mountain feel again.
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Post by jsualumnus on Dec 4, 2023 6:38:03 GMT -6
Was rooting for Montana State and Montana. Will be pulling for the Grizz at this point.
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Post by gemofthehills on Dec 4, 2023 6:42:33 GMT -6
Was rooting for Montana State and Montana. Will be pulling for the Grizz at this point. Me, too Have several Griz fan friends. Still on my bucketlist to attend a game in Missoula.
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Post by leeroy on Dec 4, 2023 8:09:05 GMT -6
I flipped it on the Montana game as well just for the aesthetic. Snow football is awesome. Also, I generally root for Montana. I think their stadium and atmosphere is really cool.
Totally unrelated sidenote: I have declared that Pittsburgh State is now my favorite D2 program. The Gorilla is the second best mascot of all time, especially for football.
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