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Post by JSUSoutherner on Apr 7, 2022 14:44:51 GMT -6
Lamar is leaving the WAC to return to the Southland Conference. Looks like WAC football is as screwed up as the ASUN. So happy to be out of the FCS and their hybrid leagues. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk So is McNeese. I also have a source saying SFA to CUSA is gaining steam.
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Post by stevo on Apr 7, 2022 15:56:15 GMT -6
Lamar is leaving the WAC to return to the Southland Conference. Looks like WAC football is as screwed up as the ASUN. So happy to be out of the FCS and their hybrid leagues. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk So is McNeese. I also have a source saying SFA to CUSA is gaining steam. How about this CUSA set up? EAST 1. JSU 2. WKU 3. MTSU 4. FIU 5. Liberty 6. EKU WEST 1. NMSU 2. UTEP 3. SHSU 4. SFA 5. Tarleton St 6. LA Tech Play the other 5 in your division and half of the other. That way you only travel to NMSU & UTEP once every 4 years.
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Post by JSUSoutherner on Apr 7, 2022 15:58:33 GMT -6
So is McNeese. I also have a source saying SFA to CUSA is gaining steam. How about this CUSA set up? EAST 1. JSU 2. WKU 3. MTSU 4. FIU 5. Liberty 6. EKU WEST 1. NMSU 2. UTEP 3. SHSU 4. SFA 5. Tarleton St 6. LA Tech I'd rather stay at 10 and drop EKU and Tarelton but aside from that unless we can bring better schools, but other than that I like it.
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Post by Whup Em All on Apr 7, 2022 16:49:42 GMT -6
How about this CUSA set up? EAST 1. JSU 2. WKU 3. MTSU 4. FIU 5. Liberty 6. EKU WEST 1. NMSU 2. UTEP 3. SHSU 4. SFA 5. Tarleton St 6. LA Tech I'd rather stay at 10 and drop EKU and Tarelton but aside from that unless we can bring better schools, but other than that I like it. I'd rather stay at 9 than go to 10, but that has absolutely nothing to do with wanting SFA, EKU, or even Tarleton in the conference. It's just the revenue factor from NCAA and CFP payouts. (A pie divided into 9 pieces yields bigger slices than a pie divided into 10 pieces.) THAT SAID... I'd also rather move to 12 than go to 10. Ten is just such an awkward number for football. Nine is near-perfect. Eight conference games, round-robin. Boom. Done. Everyone plays everybody. You can still do a CCG if you want (and given the money, everyone will want it) by taking the top two teams in a rematch. With 12, you get the nice neat geographical divisions stevo suggested. And that rocks. But with 10... ugh... you wind up with a schedule that omits a single team from the opposite conference each season. I mean, sure, it works. But it's not nearly as neat and tidy, and it bothers me. If did move to 12, I'd be OK with Tarleton, but ugh... I mean, Tarleton's got tons of intangibles, despite being a very recent D-II move-up. Money. Potential market. Their part of Texas is absolutely exploding. But when you put them on a map, they're not close to anybody. Sure, they "bridge the gap" between east and west Texas, but what does that accomplish? It fills in a hole on the map, but doesn't reduce travel times for anybody. (I'm not big on Missouri State for a similar reason, and MOST has way more to offer than Tarleton. Except, of course, for them not wanting anything to do with CUSA. That's a problem.) The sad thing is, I think Tarleton has way more to offer (ultimately) than any of the alternatives. McNeese wants to move up, and I like them and their fans, but they're incredibly weak overall, especially in hoops. UCA wants up, but again, not a strong overall program. Lamar? Great location, but zero confidence in their athletic strength. NDSU? Would only make sense as a football-only school, and I don't think that's going to happen. So Tarleton it is, I s'pose. Over in the East, I would *LOVE* to see FIU somehow be removed from the picture, whether through an invitation up to the American (probably unlikely) or the decision to drop football and move to the ASUN (given their recent coaching hire, this is probably even less likely). Get rid of FIU, replace them with KSU, and man... you've got something special in the East. With them, it's still a nice little division. It just has that one LONG trip to south Florida... And look, I know WKU doesn't really want EKU. That's fine. Liberty and JSU are OK with the Colonels. So is MTSU. If the league office voted to move to 12, EKU is probably the first one to get the call in the East. KSU can steal their thunder if they hurry up and upgrade their facilities. If they want in, the Hooters need to get on it.
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Post by stevo on Apr 7, 2022 18:04:51 GMT -6
If CUSA goes to 10 schools, then you would probably have a 9 game conference football schedule. Like the Big 12 (10) has been doing.
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Post by JSUSoutherner on Apr 7, 2022 19:10:16 GMT -6
If CUSA goes to 10 schools, then you would probably have a 9 game conference football schedule. Like the Big 12 (10) has been doing. I don't necessarily have a problem with that. You have a cupcake opener or a P5 game, another P5 game, 9 conference games, and Troy for Rivalry Week. Done.
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Post by gemofthehills on Apr 8, 2022 5:59:49 GMT -6
Prefer at least 2 P5 games to get the publicity, wouldnt mind 3 if one is at home. The rules of being a success have changed and attention is a big part of being successful now.
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Post by Whup Em All on Apr 8, 2022 9:00:35 GMT -6
Prefer at least 2 P5 games to get the publicity, wouldnt mind 3 if one is at home. The rules of being a success have changed and attention is a big part of being successful now. If you're going to play 2 or 3 P5s you'd better have a team capable of winning at least one of those. Attention matters, but more people watch bowl games than watch someone like Bama beat up on someone like Kent State or ULM. You have to win 6 just to be bowl eligible. It's good if you can start working on that total before the conference portion of your schedule begins. The occasional home contest against a P5 is an entirely different animal. If a Mississippi State or Army plays in Burgess-Snow, casual fans are immediately reminded that JSU isn't a small-time program anymore. (They rightly won't mistake us for an SEC program... but they'll know we're not D-II.)
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Post by Whup Em All on Apr 8, 2022 9:02:42 GMT -6
If CUSA goes to 10 schools, then you would probably have a 9 game conference football schedule. Like the Big 12 (10) has been doing. That works, I guess. I prefer having 4 non-conference games for flexibility, but scheduling would probably be easier if you're only trying to fill three slots.
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Post by JSUSoutherner on Apr 8, 2022 19:21:24 GMT -6
Prefer at least 2 P5 games to get the publicity, wouldnt mind 3 if one is at home. The rules of being a success have changed and attention is a big part of being successful now. If you're going to play 2 or 3 P5s you'd better have a team capable of winning at least one of those. Attention matters, but more people watch bowl games than watch someone like Bama beat up on someone like Kent State or ULM. You have to win 6 just to be bowl eligible. It's good if you can start working on that total before the conference portion of your schedule begins. The occasional home contest against a P5 is an entirely different animal. If a Mississippi State or Army plays in Burgess-Snow, casual fans are immediately reminded that JSU isn't a small-time program anymore. (They rightly won't mistake us for an SEC program... but they'll know we're not D-II.) I'd argue more people are watching Alabama play Kent State than watch Kent State play ULM in the Toilet Bowl.
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Post by Whup Em All on Apr 12, 2022 9:27:21 GMT -6
If you're going to play 2 or 3 P5s you'd better have a team capable of winning at least one of those. Attention matters, but more people watch bowl games than watch someone like Bama beat up on someone like Kent State or ULM. You have to win 6 just to be bowl eligible. It's good if you can start working on that total before the conference portion of your schedule begins. The occasional home contest against a P5 is an entirely different animal. If a Mississippi State or Army plays in Burgess-Snow, casual fans are immediately reminded that JSU isn't a small-time program anymore. (They rightly won't mistake us for an SEC program... but they'll know we're not D-II.) I'd argue more people are watching Alabama play Kent State than watch Kent State play ULM in the Toilet Bowl. Having attended an Alabama game where they played Kent State... I disagree. I don't entirely understand the kind of people who'd watch the Toilet Bowl on TV when they're unaffiliated with either university, but they're out there, and there's a lot of them.
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Post by gemofthehills on Apr 12, 2022 11:44:33 GMT -6
Gamblers
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Post by Whup Em All on Apr 12, 2022 14:18:39 GMT -6
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Post by JSUSoutherner on Apr 12, 2022 18:34:56 GMT -6
And Bars with TVs no one are watching.
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Post by troysux on Apr 12, 2022 19:14:03 GMT -6
People who are big football fans might tune in to a G5 bowl game because nothing else is on and there aren’t any games involving big name schools for two weeks.
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