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Post by Whup Em All on Feb 23, 2022 16:06:56 GMT -6
Siran Neal is now the highest paid special teams player in the NFL, after signing a 3-yr, $10.9M extension with the Buffalo Bills. A 2-star recruit in CBC's first and only signing class in 2013 (see video below), Neal redshirted his freshman year before going on to record 191 tackles, 0.5 sacks, 13 TFL, 2 FF, 3 INT, and 21 pass breakups over the next four seasons.
NT Connor Christian was drafted in round 26 of the USFL draft by the New Orleans Breakers. Christian was a Savannah State transfer who sat out the 2016 season, but was a big contributor in 2017 and 2018, tallying 51 tackles, 9 sacks, 15 TFL, 13 QBH, and 2 blocked kicks
OLB Tre Threat was drafted in round 31 of the USFL draft by the Michigan Panthers. Threat was an Auburn transfer who played in 2018 and 2019. He finished his Gamecock career with 42 tackles, 7 sacks, and 12 TFL.
Siran Neal's introductory video from NSD 2013:
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Post by stevo on Feb 23, 2022 22:28:19 GMT -6
Siran Neal is now the highest paid special teams player in the NFL, after signing a 3-yr, $10.9M extension with the Buffalo Bills. And Connor Christian was drafted today by the New Orleans Breakers of the USFL. (I realize the USFL is a step or three down from the NFL, but getting drafted is still something to be proud of.) No other JSU players were drafted. When did Connor Christian play at JSU? Anyone remember Tre Threat? Round 31.... herosports.com/fcs-football-players-selected-2022-usfl-draft-bzbz/ |
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Post by pascal on Feb 23, 2022 23:08:03 GMT -6
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Post by Whup Em All on Feb 24, 2022 10:36:54 GMT -6
I edited the original post to add Tre Threat (who was drafted after I'd posted) and to add JSU career stats for each player.
I also added Siran Neal's introductory video from NSD 2013. He was a 2-star recruit on Scout and was not ranked by the other major recruiting services. Another prime example of why stars don't matter.
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Post by King_Gamecock on Feb 24, 2022 20:45:01 GMT -6
I edited the original post to add Tre Threat (who was drafted after I'd posted) and to add JSU career stats for each player. I also added Siran Neal's introductory video from NSD 2013. He was a 2-star recruit on Scout and was not ranked by the other major recruiting services. Another prime example of why stars don't matter. I understand your point... student athletes can overcome star ranking. Wentz was a 5'11 150# nothing as a high school Junior. Stars rankings were not accurate where he was concerned. That said, star ratings are a good indicator of how significantly a player will contribute, and to what level they are capable. If they truly didn't matter, UA and UGA wouldn't be what they are. When everyone has good players, having just a little bit better players makes a difference. |
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Post by Cleburneslim on Feb 24, 2022 21:41:40 GMT -6
The problem with many is no one really looks hard at many. So a low or no ranking. Especially those who attend smaller schools.
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Post by gemofthehills on Feb 25, 2022 6:43:36 GMT -6
They are right more than they are wrong.
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Post by Whup Em All on Feb 25, 2022 11:15:29 GMT -6
I edited the original post to add Tre Threat (who was drafted after I'd posted) and to add JSU career stats for each player. I also added Siran Neal's introductory video from NSD 2013. He was a 2-star recruit on Scout and was not ranked by the other major recruiting services. Another prime example of why stars don't matter. I understand your point... student athletes can overcome star ranking. Wentz was a 5'11 150# nothing as a high school Junior. Stars rankings were not accurate where he was concerned. That said, star ratings are a good indicator of how significantly a player will contribute, and to what level they are capable. If they truly didn't matter, UA and UGA wouldn't be what they are. When everyone has good players, having just a little bit better players makes a difference. I submit that they're (reasonably) accurate for 5-star and 4-star players. Somewhat accurate for many higher end 3-star players. And totally worthless for everyone else. There is no known ceiling for low-end 3-star, 2-star, and no-star players. They can be career benchwarmers who never make it to the field, or they can be future NFL Hall of Famers. Recruiting services aren't able to see these guys in person most of the time. Their ratings are based on stats, reputation of the schools, and game film (which while helpful, certainly isn't perfect). So yeah, Bama, UGA, and Clemson have all won NCs by targeting those 5-star players. But at the G5 and FCS level, stars mean very little. |
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Post by King_Gamecock on Feb 25, 2022 12:51:12 GMT -6
I understand your point... student athletes can overcome star ranking. Wentz was a 5'11 150# nothing as a high school Junior. Stars rankings were not accurate where he was concerned. That said, star ratings are a good indicator of how significantly a player will contribute, and to what level they are capable. If they truly didn't matter, UA and UGA wouldn't be what they are. When everyone has good players, having just a little bit better players makes a difference. I submit that they're (reasonably) accurate for 5-star and 4-star players. Somewhat accurate for many higher end 3-star players. And totally worthless for everyone else. There is no known ceiling for low-end 3-star, 2-star, and no-star players. They can be career benchwarmers who never make it to the field, or they can be future NFL Hall of Famers. Recruiting services aren't able to see these guys in person most of the time. Their ratings are based on stats, reputation of the schools, and game film (which while helpful, certainly isn't perfect). So yeah, Bama, UGA, and Clemson have all won NCs by targeting those 5-star players. But at the G5 and FCS level, stars mean very little. I would agree with that…. I think the chances of missing on a 2 star who is really a 5 are much greater than a 5 star really being a 2. Busts happen but coaching staffs that do due diligence rarely whiff outside of intangibles. That’s probably why Saban puts so much emphasis on psychology. It reduces misses. When everyone you sign is 4 stars or higher, psychology is the trump card in recruiting. For G5 and FCS it is diamonds in the rough and undervalued players. |
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Post by Cleburneslim on Feb 25, 2022 13:55:12 GMT -6
The work has mostly been done for 4 or 5 star ratings. For three star and below they are given a more casual glance the number is a lot more meaningless. G5 coaching staffs will have to do their own due diligence.
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