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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2022 13:46:42 GMT -6
This will be the last time we ever have to see Murray's stupid stadium. It's been real.
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Post by toooldtocare on Sept 8, 2022 16:06:29 GMT -6
And the broad assumption we have 85 scholarships. My understanding is we plan to grow to that level over 3 years. The actual number at this time is in the low 70s.
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Post by King_Gamecock on Sept 8, 2022 17:29:34 GMT -6
And the broad assumption we have 85 scholarships. My understanding is we plan to grow to that level over 3 years. The actual number at this time is in the low 70s. Exactly. I’ve been saying the same thing… and it’s not like we instantly have a roster filled with FBS players. Most of our guys were recruited to play at FCS level.
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Post by toooldtocare on Sept 8, 2022 21:10:38 GMT -6
And the broad assumption we have 85 scholarships. My understanding is we plan to grow to that level over 3 years. The actual number at this time is in the low 70s. Exactly. I’ve been saying the same thing… and it’s not like we instantly have a roster filled with FBS players. Most of our guys were recruited to play at FCS level. Well I have to disagree with you on this point. We cut 35 after spring practice and replaced with 50 new faces, all of which are believed to be capable of competing in the FBS level, although we are relatively young at this time.
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Post by JSUSoutherner on Sept 8, 2022 21:24:17 GMT -6
Exactly. I’ve been saying the same thing… and it’s not like we instantly have a roster filled with FBS players. Most of our guys were recruited to play at FCS level. Well I have to disagree with you on this point. We cut 35 after spring practice and replaced with 50 new faces, all of which are believed to be capable of competing in the FBS level, although we are relatively young at this time. I don't think coaches just decide "I want to recruit FBS players" or "I just need FCS players". They're just going to go for the best guys they can get. Whether that is good enough for FBS or not is yet to be seen.
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Post by King_Gamecock on Sept 8, 2022 23:43:52 GMT -6
Exactly. I’ve been saying the same thing… and it’s not like we instantly have a roster filled with FBS players. Most of our guys were recruited to play at FCS level. Well I have to disagree with you on this point. We cut 35 after spring practice and replaced with 50 new faces, all of which are believed to be capable of competing in the FBS level, although we are relatively young at this time. You can disagree, but at last count I think it was 17 of our transfers out had landed at FBS schools. Most of our incoming students will redshirt with no guarantee they will ever see the field. Transfers have made some impact, but it is the first year in a new system and there has to be some continuity and many players are holdovers. We had a lot of FBS transfers in before the move. The biggest change this year isn’t roster size or talent level, it’s Coach Rod. From a talent level standpoint, we are still well below the top schools in the MVFC. All that said, I don’t think our being ineligible is unfair, but it should have been stated in the beginning instead of changing it after we laid waste to SFA. Had we played Davidson in week 1, nothing would have been said at that time.
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Post by Whup Em All on Sept 9, 2022 12:44:37 GMT -6
I came here to post the same comment about the "85 scholarships" claim. SFA's press said the same thing, even AFTER being corrected by multiple people, including Jax State officials. As King_Gamecock said, though we may be ELIGIBLE to put 85 on scholarship, we're only USING about 70 of those. Some of those extra scholarships were simply used to bump guys on partial scholarships up to full scholarships. FCS scholarships are equivalency-based, meaning you can divide a single full scholarship up into two 1/2 scholarships (or three 1/3 scholarships, etc.), to provide assistance to two (or three) players instead of just one. That's not allowed in FBS, where scholarships are headcount-based. In FBS, you have 85 scholarships available for 85 players. Period. It's not that we're not seeing any benefits to transitioning upward. Well more than half of this year's recruiting class were 3-star or higher players, a solid upgrade (on paper) over past classes, which often only contained a couple of 3-star recruits. But we'll preserve the redshirts for most of those players, so you'll only see those guys in 4 games or less. (Transfers are the exception here. Unless they still have a redshirt available, they'll usually play right away.) But the point is, we're not playing an FCS schedule with a full allotment of 85 scholarship players. It's roughly the same as last year's. And as King_Gamecock said, being ineligible isn't the issue. It's the fact that the ASUN originally said we WOULD be, and only changed its mind after our dismantling of the Lumberjacks.
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Post by bigboi on Sept 9, 2022 19:25:09 GMT -6
I smell a 3-0 start for Rich Rod and Co
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Post by jsualumnus on Sept 11, 2022 7:29:16 GMT -6
I came here to post the same comment about the "85 scholarships" claim. SFA's press said the same thing, even AFTER being corrected by multiple people, including Jax State officials. As King_Gamecock said, though we may be ELIGIBLE to put 85 on scholarship, we're only USING about 70 of those. Some of those extra scholarships were simply used to bump guys on partial scholarships up to full scholarships. FCS scholarships are equivalency-based, meaning you can divide a single full scholarship up into two 1/2 scholarships (or three 1/3 scholarships, etc.), to provide assistance to two (or three) players instead of just one. That's not allowed in FBS, where scholarships are headcount-based. In FBS, you have 85 scholarships available for 85 players. Period. It's not that we're not seeing any benefits to transitioning upward. Well more than half of this year's recruiting class were 3-star or higher players, a solid upgrade (on paper) over past classes, which often only contained a couple of 3-star recruits. But we'll preserve the redshirts for most of those players, so you'll only see those guys in 4 games or less. (Transfers are the exception here. Unless they still have a redshirt available, they'll usually play right away.) But the point is, we're not playing an FCS schedule with a full allotment of 85 scholarship players. It's roughly the same as last year's. And as King_Gamecock said, being ineligible isn't the issue. It's the fact that the ASUN originally said we WOULD be, and only changed its mind after our dismantling of the Lumberjacks. Great post! I believe Coach Rodriguez is simply holding each player accountable to play at the highest level they are capable of; whereas, Grass tried to do it at times and was probably a best friend to many. The indication where he did NOT coach this was in the penalty numbers. I don’t know…. I think he’s expecting it, demands it and instills it in their heads that they are capable of it. This comment didn’t have much to do with your post, but I was just telling you I liked it. I was making my statement from others outside of JSU world that having 85 scholarships was the reason we are playing well right now, and it isn’t.
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Post by pubdaze on Sept 11, 2022 10:48:23 GMT -6
Y’all see HCRR getting fired up late in the game when we were down in the red zone and couldn’t punch it in? I like seeing some fire from him when things don’t go right.
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