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Post by helenagamecock on Feb 12, 2024 16:09:31 GMT -6
there facebook page just posted an ad saying 193.5% increase! how the heck are they calculating that big of increase?
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Post by gemofthehills on Feb 12, 2024 17:44:47 GMT -6
Something like a base of 2015?
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Post by Whup Em All on Feb 12, 2024 17:50:43 GMT -6
there facebook page just posted an ad saying 193.5% increase! how the heck are they calculating that big of increase? Read the small print: A 193.5 percent increase in first-time freshmen compared to Spring 2023. Since the number of first-time freshmen enrolling in the spring is typically much lower than in the fall, it's not inconceivable to have that number double or triple in a given year compared to the previous year. The total enrollment is the highest spring enrollment since 2012, at 8,887. This is DOWN from last fall (which is typical each year) but since they're comparing spring semesters, it's still a significant increase over prior years. |
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Post by helenagamecock on Feb 13, 2024 10:53:36 GMT -6
Also, I'm wondering if there counting dual enrollment. My son is taking 1 dual course this spring.
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Post by pubdaze on Feb 14, 2024 8:19:51 GMT -6
there facebook page just posted an ad saying 193.5% increase! how the heck are they calculating that big of increase? Read the small print: A 193.5 percent increase in first-time freshmen compared to Spring 2023. Since the number of first-time freshmen enrolling in the spring is typically much lower than in the fall, it's not inconceivable to have that number double or triple in a given year compared to the previous year. The total enrollment is the highest spring enrollment since 2012, at 8,887. This is DOWN from last fall (which is typical each year) but since they're comparing spring semesters, it's still a significant increase over prior years. Has the enrollment ever exceeded 10K? |
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Post by Whup Em All on Feb 14, 2024 8:59:09 GMT -6
Read the small print: A 193.5 percent increase in first-time freshmen compared to Spring 2023. Since the number of first-time freshmen enrolling in the spring is typically much lower than in the fall, it's not inconceivable to have that number double or triple in a given year compared to the previous year. The total enrollment is the highest spring enrollment since 2012, at 8,887. This is DOWN from last fall (which is typical each year) but since they're comparing spring semesters, it's still a significant increase over prior years. Has the enrollment ever exceeded 10K? No. That's been the goal since forever, but we always get to 9.6K or thereabouts and then it trails off again. I'm hopeful with some of the recent changes (both capital improvements and greater exposure thanks to the move to FBS) we can break through that ceiling this fall. |
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Post by pix99 on Feb 14, 2024 16:06:27 GMT -6
I would've thought that with open enrollment, JSU would've had numbers going through the roof, but it hasn't happened yet. Also troubling, & not discussed much, is the abysmal freshman retention rates which continue to drop. A quick glance at US News & World Report shows us 10-25% less than Liberty, UA, La Tech, Kenny, & Samford, to name a few schools we're familiar with.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 14, 2024 16:22:45 GMT -6
We are in the middle of nowhere. A lot of people come here and get homesick or bored or use it as a stepping stone to go somewhere else.
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Post by pix99 on Feb 14, 2024 17:45:57 GMT -6
We are in the middle of nowhere. A lot of people come here and get homesick or bored or use it as a stepping stone to go somewhere else. Agree to a point, but consider... there are a lot of schools in remote, rural areas that have retention rates 20% or more higher than ours. And our rate hasn't always been so low. I would bet that there's a correlation of open enrollment with drops in kids staying in school, though to be honest, I haven't verified it. I mean, at the rate we're going, in a year or so, JSU could be looking at close to 50% freshman retention rates. We're waving kids through the door that would be better served by going into a tech school & learning a trade. Instead, they're going through a cattle chute into college, wasting months or years of their time & incurring debt they or their parents will struggle to pay. This is painful for me to admit, as I come from a generation that believed to succeed, you needed a college degree. But in the world we live in now, I think open enrollment isn't serving the best interests of a lot of kids. I don't think it's even serving the best interest of JSU. I could be way off base, but SOMETHING is causing year over year drops in freshman retention rates that aren't explained by our geographical location or homesickness. |
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Post by gemofthehills on Feb 14, 2024 21:06:43 GMT -6
I have no problem with open enrollment. Not sure with our housing issues open enrollment really means open enrollment as many cant find a place to live.
Arizona State is open enrollment to in state students and AAU so it is not always a bad deal.
With limited STEM degrees and other degrees the state will not allow JSU to offer will create many good students to leave after a few years. Just the way it works in UAT and Auburn land. Do what best for them not the students or the state as a whole.
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Post by Whup Em All on Feb 15, 2024 9:20:11 GMT -6
Jax State hasn't had "open enrollment" for a long, long time. A couple decades at least.
It's not a highly competitive school by any means, but only 76.3% of applicants are accepted. That ranks ahead of troy state (95.3%) and UNA (90%), UAB (89%), and even Tuscaloosa (79%). We're just behind Auburn's 72%.
Our actual admission requirements are right in line with what you'd expect from a former teachers college:
Unconditional Admission - ACT Composite 20 or higher OR SAT Combined Critical Reading and Math 1030 or higher AND and a High School Grade Point Average 2.00 on 4.00 scale
Conditional Admission (requires additional courses, coaching/tutoring, or other academic support) - ACT Composite 18-19 OR SAT Combined Critical Reading and Math 940-1010 AND a High School Grade Point Average 2.00 on a 4.00 scale
Whatever JSU is doing wrong to keep its freshmen on campus, it doesn't appear to be a lack of admission standards.
GRADUATION RATE (percent graduating with a bachelor's within 6 years)
Auburn 72%
Bama 66%
UAB 55%
Liberty 49%
MTSU 45%
WKU 43%
National Average 41.9%
Kennesaw 41%
UNA 38%
troy state 34%
JSU 31%
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Post by gemofthehills on Feb 15, 2024 9:55:34 GMT -6
Not enough places to PARTY. Get Brothers back hoping with some good bands and the students will stay.
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Post by pix99 on Feb 15, 2024 15:59:12 GMT -6
Jax State hasn't had "open enrollment" for a long, long time. A couple decades at least. It's not a highly competitive school by any means, but only 76.3% of applicants are accepted. That ranks ahead of troy state (95.3%) and UNA (90%), UAB (89%), and even Tuscaloosa (79%). We're just behind Auburn's 72%. Our actual admission requirements are right in line with what you'd expect from a former teachers college: Unconditional Admission - ACT Composite 20 or higher OR SAT Combined Critical Reading and Math 1030 or higher AND and a High School Grade Point Average 2.00 on 4.00 scale Conditional Admission (requires additional courses, coaching/tutoring, or other academic support) - ACT Composite 18-19 OR SAT Combined Critical Reading and Math 940-1010 AND a High School Grade Point Average 2.00 on a 4.00 scale Whatever JSU is doing wrong to keep its freshmen on campus, it doesn't appear to be a lack of admission standards. GRADUATION RATE (percent graduating with a bachelor's within 6 years) Auburn 72% Bama 66% UAB 55% Liberty 49% MTSU 45% WKU 43% National Average 41.9% Kennesaw 41% UNA 38% troy state 34% JSU 31% From the JSU freshman admissions page: "JSU is test optional for freshman admission, meaning ACT/SAT scores are not required. While JSU is test optional for ACT/SAT requirements, all first year and transfer students who have not completed their first required math or English should complete JSU EdReady Math and English placement exams and work their study path. o Although test scores are not required, JSU recommends students send test scores each time they take an exam. Test scores can be used for admission into specific academic programs, placement into courses, and for some scholarships. *GPA will be taken from the high school transcript which must be complete through the Junior Year. Students will be provisionally admitted until the final high school transcript has been received by the Admissions Office. Once the final transcript has been received, the GPA will be reviewed again and must meet the required minimum for admission. In lieu of the high school transcript, successful completion of the GED is acceptable." You can also appeal even the GPA deal (ie, they can let you in with less than a 2.0 high school GPA if you ask) or enter with just a GED. |
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