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Post by brother on Aug 17, 2022 19:41:46 GMT -6
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Post by Cleburneslim on Aug 17, 2022 19:53:11 GMT -6
Good the sooner the better.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2022 7:30:35 GMT -6
We could never compete anyway. And something like 85% of football fans have a Power 5 they follow in addition to their own school. We could be in the hunt for a national championship still instead of being the winners of the TJ Maxx Bowl.
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Post by Whup Em All on Aug 18, 2022 9:40:05 GMT -6
If the status quo remains, I'm absolutely fine with not being in the hunt for a National Championship. We'd still *technically* be on the same level as the Bamas and UGAs of the world, and would enjoy some of those benefits, just as schools like UAB and troy state currently do. (For example, just the other day, my wife was perusing the collegiate-branded options for a product she was shopping for, and asked why they had troy state and not JSU. I checked, and all the CUSA teams were included.)
But we know the status quo is not going to remain.
The P5 will break away, in some form, and G5 will be left behind.
And I'm absolutely fine with this as well. In fact, it's one of the main reasons I've wanted JSU to move up.
G5 is about to become what I-AA was from the late 1980s through the very early 2000s. And that's where JSU belongs.
The current rendition of I-AA has already largely fallen to "D-II" status. And D-II is a pale shadow of what it used to be when the Gulf South Conference was kicking ass and taking names back in the 80s.
So... P5 breaks away and doesn't provide a path to the playoff for G5. The G5 schools, still governed by the NCAA, will petition for a NCAA-sanctioned football championship, which will be granted.
JSU's transition will have been completed before all this comes to pass, and we'll be immediately eligible as "charter members" (so to speak) of this "new" football championship division.
Honestly, either way, we can't lose.
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Post by gemofthehills on Aug 18, 2022 12:13:53 GMT -6
If a break occurs we need to be pursuing a move up ASAP. I know we will not be at the top of the list but still take the first opportunity.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2022 13:05:13 GMT -6
Maybe in a 100 years. We'll never see that P3 money.
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Post by stevo on Aug 18, 2022 16:00:05 GMT -6
If a break occurs we need to be pursuing a move up ASAP. I know we will not be at the top of the list but still take the first opportunity. Move up to what? Just moved up last year.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2022 16:45:33 GMT -6
The SEC South
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Post by JSUSoutherner on Aug 18, 2022 16:53:12 GMT -6
If a break occurs we need to be pursuing a move up ASAP. I know we will not be at the top of the list but still take the first opportunity. Move up to what? Just moved up last year. Maybe we can break away from the NCAA and host our own playoff.
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Post by Cleburneslim on Aug 18, 2022 17:15:48 GMT -6
Move up to what? Just moved up last year. Maybe we can break away from the NCAA and host our own playoff. Best case scenario I believe, the g5 break free return to an amateur level “as much as possible” and form it’s own tournament as an alternative to semi pro football The p5 will eventually lose its current popularity and the G5 could grow as a result.
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Post by gemofthehills on Aug 18, 2022 17:26:55 GMT -6
If a break occurs we need to be pursuing a move up ASAP. I know we will not be at the top of the list but still take the first opportunity. Move up to what? Just moved up last year. There wasnt a breakaway last year? What is hard to describe when the break hasnt happened. Ill let you know when/if the break occurs.
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Post by brother on Aug 18, 2022 21:21:17 GMT -6
Move up to what? Just moved up last year. Maybe we can break away from the NCAA and host our own playoff. It won't be the G5 breaking away. The P5 are wanting to break away from the NCAA and just manage themselves. The G5 will become the top level of the NCAA.
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Post by Cleburneslim on Aug 19, 2022 6:42:06 GMT -6
I think the suggestion is that the G5 should leave also, with the same idea of governing itself much like the P? Will do.
I’d suggest a return to amateurism as much as possible. Between the ncaa/P5 and the Supreme Court this whole college football is upside down with no sustainable direction. Sure the p5 can throw money around like it has no meaning but the G5 has real constraints that prevent them from ever competing again.
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Post by Powdered Soap on Aug 19, 2022 7:50:22 GMT -6
So does this mean that a player can play N years at one of the P? schools, and still have 5 years of eligibility at an NCAA school? [Setting aside reasons why they'd want to.]
And how will this affect the transfer system? My (definitely imperfect) understanding is that the NCAA has rules in place governing the timing of transfers between schools, though these rules have certainly gone nuts in recent years. Under this new system, it sounds like there will be two pools of players, each mutually ungoverned by the other...so how crazy could it get, now?
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Post by Cleburneslim on Aug 19, 2022 13:34:14 GMT -6
It’s the Wild West till something concrete is established. It seems the G5 will be a developmental league for semipro ball who’ll be developmental for the pros so a person could perhaps play 8 to 10 years of football before going pro. But we’ll have to wait and see.
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