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Post by gemofthehills on Dec 11, 2023 9:12:34 GMT -6
Your claiming a move from CUSA to SBC, is there any example of that? Our is just your continuous downgrade of JSU? Sure youve already reserached all of the movements so list the ones who have moved from either conference to the other. I just know you dont go down to move up. Chadwell is a great example, if you want to play in a NY6 bowl which conference has never had one?
You're the one who said it.
I am a realist. I'm thrilled with where JSU is. But I don't make up stuff to elevate JSU's status.
So I made stuff up but you cant give an example of a coach moving from CUSA to SBC but there is an example of the opposite?
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Post by stevo on Dec 11, 2023 9:49:27 GMT -6
Coaches dont move from CUSA to SBC. It works the other way.
Examples, other than Liberty?
You said "Coaches" plural.
I never said coaches moved within the two conferences.. I just asked you, "Examples, other than Liberty?". You haven't give any. You made a statement that I asked you about. I didn't make a statement.
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Post by gemofthehills on Dec 11, 2023 10:11:13 GMT -6
I said coaches dont move from CUSA to SBC, nothing plural about a SBC to CUSA move. I guess I should have said a coach doesnt move from CUSA to SBC. Since oblivously no coach has moved or you would have stated one.
So who are you hoping CRR will go to next? At least give us schools who historically have the ability to get a winning CUSA coach.
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Post by stevo on Dec 11, 2023 10:26:57 GMT -6
I said coaches dont move from CUSA to SBC, nothing plural about a SBC to CUSA move. I guess I should have said a coach doesnt move from CUSA to SBC. Since oblivously no coach has moved or you would have stated one. So who are you hoping CRR will go to next? At least give us schools who historically have the ability to get a winning CUSA coach.
I hope CRR goes to where ever he wants to go. If he wants to go.
CUSA is way different now than before the AAC raided it. Off the top of my head the only CUSA coach that I remember that went from the current CUSA to a Power 5 is Petrino went from WKU back to Louisville for the 2nd time. Not sure Louisville was even in the ACC when that happened (not going to look it up).
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Post by King_Gamecock on Dec 12, 2023 3:22:24 GMT -6
The discussion is silly, really.
HCRR will leave JSU for a P5 job. He won't leave for troy state. I would imagine a large bump in his salary and contract extension is already in the works, as well as the pool for assistants. Greg can't stop [insert major state university name here] from poaching him, but I would be shocked if Greg and the BoT let troy state anywhere near him.
I know we aren't exactly loaded with cash, but troy state isn't exactly Grandpa Moneybags, either. They are another teacher's college with a smaller on-campus enrollment than we have. Yeah, their online part-time enrollment is large, though it is way down from the DoD partnership days.
Let's not make out like troy state is anything other than a lateral move. Aside from having the headstart in the FBS that was a result of the policy changes in moving up, their potential in the FBS is no greater than ours. Given our location and history, it is arguable that our ceiling is higher.
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Post by oldkappasig on Dec 12, 2023 6:42:45 GMT -6
The discussion is silly, really. HCRR will leave JSU for a P5 job. He won't leave for troy state. I would imagine a large bump in his salary and contract extension is already in the works, as well as the pool for assistants. Greg can't stop [insert major state university name here] from poaching him, but I would be shocked if Greg and the BoT let troy state anywhere near him. I know we aren't exactly loaded with cash, but troy state isn't exactly Grandpa Moneybags, either. They are another teacher's college with a smaller on-campus enrollment than we have. Yeah, their online part-time enrollment is large, though it is way down from the DoD partnership days. Let's not make out like troy state is anything other than a lateral move. Aside from having the headstart in the FBS that was a result of the policy changes in moving up, their potential in the FBS is no greater than ours. Given our location and history, it is arguable that our ceiling is higher. Beg to differ. Wiley Sanders Inc is THE LARGEST lead recycler in the USA, if not the world. When Wiley passed away the majority of his money 10s, if not 100s of millions of dollars was left to TSU. Add to that in the past Movie Gallery & Richard Scrushy could dwarf anyone connected to JSU. But they don't hold a candle to Wiley Sanders.
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Post by gemofthehills on Dec 12, 2023 6:58:54 GMT -6
The discussion is silly, really. HCRR will leave JSU for a P5 job. He won't leave for troy state. I would imagine a large bump in his salary and contract extension is already in the works, as well as the pool for assistants. Greg can't stop [insert major state university name here] from poaching him, but I would be shocked if Greg and the BoT let troy state anywhere near him. I know we aren't exactly loaded with cash, but troy state isn't exactly Grandpa Moneybags, either. They are another teacher's college with a smaller on-campus enrollment than we have. Yeah, their online part-time enrollment is large, though it is way down from the DoD partnership days. Let's not make out like troy state is anything other than a lateral move. Aside from having the headstart in the FBS that was a result of the policy changes in moving up, their potential in the FBS is no greater than ours. Given our location and history, it is arguable that our ceiling is higher. Beg to differ. Wiley Sanders Inc is THE LARGEST lead recycler in the USA, if not the world. When Wiley passed away the majority of his money 10s, if not 100s of millions of dollars was left to TSU. Add to that in the past Movie Gallery & Richard Scrushy could dwarf anyone connected to JSU. But they don't hold a candle to Wiley Sanders. It would be reported in their foundation report which has somewhere around 150 million. So troy state isnt rich and foundation money is normally restricted for its use. No idea what Sanders wealth was but his company income was only 150 million which isnt very large. JSU has several alums with wealth in the 10s or 100s of millions. troy state has several more too. But not sure of those, how many are willing to spend their money on a football coach? Would bet the guy our new building is named after has a larger bank account than Sanders. My bet would be both schools are very close in terms of wealthy alums. Neither has a whole lot compared to most universities.
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Post by oldkappasig on Dec 13, 2023 7:20:19 GMT -6
I believe you are looking at Wiley Sanders Trucking Trucking. That was only one part of his personal holdings. He made his real money in lead & plastic recycling
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Post by smith79jordan on Dec 18, 2023 11:04:56 GMT -6
Not that I has any doubts, but Rich Rod is not going to troy state. This should end speculation that we'll lose him to an FBS team this cycle. NFL Black Monday is around the corner! (kidding)
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Post by stevo on Dec 18, 2023 11:32:46 GMT -6
Should be quiet till Jim Harbaugh or Lincoln Riley go to the NFL.
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Post by gemofthehills on Dec 18, 2023 19:31:32 GMT -6
Kirby Smart will be the first one.
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Post by stevo on Dec 23, 2023 16:34:36 GMT -6
Jerry Kill stepping down. Former UNLV coach Tony Sanchez supposedly to take his job.
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Post by brother on Dec 23, 2023 16:49:51 GMT -6
Jerry Kill stepping down. Former UNLV coach Tony Sanchez supposedly to take his job. We should take a look at any of their players that may jump in the portal.
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Post by gemofthehills on Dec 23, 2023 16:58:29 GMT -6
Big loss for the conference.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 23, 2023 19:02:50 GMT -6
Kirby Smart will be the first one. Kirby will be at Georgia until he dies
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