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Post by brother on Dec 5, 2023 8:40:29 GMT -6
As usual, the Pirate said it best.
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Post by ld on Dec 5, 2023 11:35:26 GMT -6
Leaving FSU out of the CFP makes a complete travesty of the entire regular season. The debate should have been between UA and UT for #4. FSU (and I'm no fan of who we used to call the 'Criminoles) got jobbed. It was all about money and power - nothing to do with actual football.
There is not a single reasonable explanation justifying leaving FSU out. And the CFP chairman's explanation about "who would you rather not play" holds no water when they still left FSU over UGA.
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Post by pubdaze on Dec 5, 2023 13:19:31 GMT -6
So the FCS has had it right all along?
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Post by stevo on Dec 5, 2023 13:52:17 GMT -6
Leaving FSU out of the CFP makes a complete travesty of the entire regular season. The debate should have been between UA and UT for #4. FSU (and I'm no fan of who we used to call the 'Criminoles) got jobbed. It was all about money and power - nothing to do with actual football. There is not a single reasonable explanation justifying leaving FSU out. And the CFP chairman's explanation about "who would you rather not play" holds no water when they still left FSU over UGA. So you think that FSU with their 2nd string QB would beat Alabama and Texas? |
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Post by jsu02 on Dec 5, 2023 14:33:07 GMT -6
So the FCS has had it right all along? 24 teams is a bit overkill IHMO, but yes. |
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Post by leeroy on Dec 5, 2023 14:44:37 GMT -6
So the FCS has had it right all along? 24 teams is a bit overkill IHMO, but yes. I think 12 is a good number. Preserves as much of the importance of the regular season as possible while also allowing auto bids |
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Post by jsu02 on Dec 5, 2023 14:51:09 GMT -6
24 teams is a bit overkill IHMO, but yes. I think 12 is a good number. Preserves as much of the importance of the regular season as possible while also allowing auto bids I think you need 16. Enough for every conf champ to have a spot, and then enough at large teams to placate the egos of the power 5 (4? 2?). This also eliminates the possibility of ending the season with multiple undefeated teams. |
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Post by leeroy on Dec 5, 2023 14:54:10 GMT -6
I think 12 is a good number. Preserves as much of the importance of the regular season as possible while also allowing auto bids I think you need 16. Enough for every conf champ to have a spot, and then enough at large teams to placate the egos of the power 5 (4? 2?). This also eliminates the possibility of ending the season with multiple undefeated teams. I was going to say 12 OR 16, but wanted to be decisive. No more than 16 though. Thoughts on byes? |
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Post by ld on Dec 5, 2023 15:54:12 GMT -6
Leaving FSU out of the CFP makes a complete travesty of the entire regular season. The debate should have been between UA and UT for #4. FSU (and I'm no fan of who we used to call the 'Criminoles) got jobbed. It was all about money and power - nothing to do with actual football. There is not a single reasonable explanation justifying leaving FSU out. And the CFP chairman's explanation about "who would you rather not play" holds no water when they still left FSU over UGA. So you think that FSU with their 2nd string QB would beat Alabama and Texas? That question is really irrelevant in my opinion. Why play any games at all? Just seed a championship game based on the pre-season poll or recruiting rankings. As an aside, I noticed that today the NCAA casually tossed out a model that will basically be the first step to a select few teams being "above" Division 1. Again, money and power. |
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Post by sprout203 on Dec 5, 2023 16:14:08 GMT -6
24 teams is a bit overkill IHMO, but yes. I think 12 is a good number. Preserves as much of the importance of the regular season as possible while also allowing auto bids The problem with 12 is that you are giving the best 4 a bye while making the others play. 16 teams.and everyone plays each week.. Each conference champ (10) and 6 at large. |
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Post by brother on Dec 5, 2023 16:14:18 GMT -6
I think you need 16. Enough for every conf champ to have a spot, and then enough at large teams to placate the egos of the power 5 (4? 2?). This also eliminates the possibility of ending the season with multiple undefeated teams. I was going to say 12 OR 16, but wanted to be decisive. No more than 16 though. Thoughts on byes? Byes are necessary. Otherwise, there is no incentive for a top team to not tank the last game of the year. |
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Post by JSUSoutherner on Dec 5, 2023 16:24:38 GMT -6
Leaving FSU out of the CFP makes a complete travesty of the entire regular season. The debate should have been between UA and UT for #4. FSU (and I'm no fan of who we used to call the 'Criminoles) got jobbed. It was all about money and power - nothing to do with actual football. There is not a single reasonable explanation justifying leaving FSU out. And the CFP chairman's explanation about "who would you rather not play" holds no water when they still left FSU over UGA. You realize this is the same thing people said about the BCS just then we skipped the semifinals. |
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Post by Whup Em All on Dec 5, 2023 16:40:25 GMT -6
Several (if not all) conferences are quietly discussing doing away with CCGs under the new playoff format. It's one extra game for your two best teams to beat each other up before the playoffs, and (as we nearly saw with the SEC this year) if your "best" team loses, it can be catastrophic.
The money involved with CCGs is the biggest issue. That's a hard thing to give up. But if it's between a "meaningless" CCG and a national championship, most schools are going to aim for the Natty. At least, the ones with a realistic shot of winning one.
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Post by jsu02 on Dec 5, 2023 20:10:29 GMT -6
Several (if not all) conferences are quietly discussing doing away with CCGs under the new playoff format. It's one extra game for your two best teams to beat each other up before the playoffs, and (as we nearly saw with the SEC this year) if your "best" team loses, it can be catastrophic. The money involved with CCGs is the biggest issue. That's a hard thing to give up. But if it's between a "meaningless" CCG and a national championship, most schools are going to aim for the Natty. At least, the ones with a realistic shot of winning one. It wouldn't be meaningless if it punched your ticket to the playoff. |
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Post by stevo on Dec 5, 2023 20:18:49 GMT -6
Several (if not all) conferences are quietly discussing doing away with CCGs under the new playoff format. It's one extra game for your two best teams to beat each other up before the playoffs, and (as we nearly saw with the SEC this year) if your "best" team loses, it can be catastrophic. The money involved with CCGs is the biggest issue. That's a hard thing to give up. But if it's between a "meaningless" CCG and a national championship, most schools are going to aim for the Natty. At least, the ones with a realistic shot of winning one. It wouldn't be meaningless if it punched your ticket to the playoff. And could get you a "Bye". |
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