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Post by jsu02 on Dec 5, 2023 20:26:08 GMT -6
It wouldn't be meaningless if it punched your ticket to the playoff. And could get you a "Bye". No byes!
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Post by stevo on Dec 5, 2023 21:05:33 GMT -6
And could get you a "Bye". No byes! Not sure if I follow you. A 12 team tournament means 4 teams have a first round bye. For instance, Georgia losing to Alabama would result in Georgia playing a first round game instead of having a bye.
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Post by jsu02 on Dec 5, 2023 21:10:54 GMT -6
Not sure if I follow you. A 12 team tournament means 4 teams have a first round bye. For instance, Georgia losing to Alabama would result in Georgia playing a first round game instead of having a bye. That's why we need a 16 team play off!
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Post by Whup Em All on Dec 5, 2023 23:18:23 GMT -6
It wouldn't be meaningless if it punched your ticket to the playoff. And could get you a "Bye". CCGs can be meaningless because (in some cases) the conference champion (and runners up) can be determined solely through W-L record, head-to-head matchups, etc., just like the old days when college football was an amateur sport played in small, regional conferences. (It's also the method used to determine divisional champs in the NFL. So I guess it's not just for amateurs after all...) It's a league official who called the conference title games meaningless (or words to that effect). I just can't remember which league, which official, and which media source I saw it in. It didn't seem important to me at the time. His point, generally speaking, was just that, despite the megabucks to be made from a title game, it exposes their athletes to greater risk of injury, and only in limited cases does the CCG *help* someone's case. For conferences like the Big Ten and SEC, the top 2 teams are already going to be in the 12-team playoff. If a 2nd place team (like, say, Bama) has caught fire in the latter half of the season, then they'll have the CFP to prove their championship worth. And from a conference standpoint, that's a win-win. You have one team (e.g., UGA) winning the conference title and another team (e.g., the Tide) winning the Natty. In some cases, say if the 1st place team already has one loss and the 2nd place team already has two, the CCG can be bad for the conference entering the playoffs. If the 1st place team loses, the conference now has two 2-loss teams in the playoff. Neither would be in line for a high seed. If the 2nd place team loses, then they may be eliminated from the playoff entirely, leaving the conference with only one representative. Don't play the CCG, and the conference is potentially more likely to get two teams in, with at least one of them in line for a decent seed. With a four-team playoff, none of this much matters. Strength of schedule means everything (ask FSU) and the nudge the two teams get from the CCG may push at least one of them into the playoff. But with 12 teams? The CCG isn't worth the risk. Declare your champ based on regular season play (and a page full of tiebreakers) and save your teams for a deep playoff run.
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Post by gemofthehills on Dec 5, 2023 23:54:19 GMT -6
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Post by troysux on Dec 6, 2023 6:30:06 GMT -6
The SEC makes a ton of money off the SECCG. They aren’t giving that up.
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Post by Whup Em All on Dec 6, 2023 8:10:01 GMT -6
The SEC makes a ton of money off the SECCG. They aren’t giving that up. Pretty much what the league official ultimately said. They know it's in their best interest to give it up, but there's nothing to replace them dolla-dolla bills. And after all, isn't that what matters most?
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Post by pubdaze on Dec 6, 2023 8:52:18 GMT -6
The SEC makes a ton of money off the SECCG. They aren’t giving that up. Pretty much what the league official ultimately said. They know it's in their best interest to give it up, but there's nothing to replace them dolla-dolla bills. And after all, isn't that what matters most? Once you strip away everything it really is all about the coin. Sad but true.
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Post by JSUSoutherner on Dec 30, 2023 18:11:27 GMT -6
Any further questions?
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Post by gemofthehills on Dec 30, 2023 21:39:58 GMT -6
Why wasnt UGA included?
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Post by gemofthehills on Dec 30, 2023 21:40:33 GMT -6
Liberty should have gotten in before FSU.
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Post by jsualumnus on Dec 30, 2023 23:46:41 GMT -6
Crying shame what happened to UGA. Alabama deserved to be in, but Texas??? No way. I’m even skeptical about UW.
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Post by sprout203 on Dec 31, 2023 9:17:07 GMT -6
Liberty should have gotten in before FSU. Surely you jest. I would have preferred Liberty to play FSU as I feel they could win, but the SOS is an issue..
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Post by sprout203 on Dec 31, 2023 9:19:34 GMT -6
Crying shame what happened to UGA. Alabama deserved to be in, but Texas??? No way. I’m even skeptical about UW. I feel as Michigan is the weakest of the 4. UGA would have been there intstead. Hopefully, Alabama will show that.
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Post by gemofthehills on Dec 31, 2023 9:34:33 GMT -6
Liberty should have gotten in before FSU. Surely you jest. I would have preferred Liberty to play FSU as I feel they could win, but the SOS is an issue.. Partly but after watching last night I wonder if Liberty isnt better.
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