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Post by pascal on Sept 19, 2023 18:59:46 GMT -6
First floor of new football complex.
Bottom right is Coach Rod's office. Has it's own outdoor seats!
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Post by JSUSoutherner on Sept 19, 2023 19:26:09 GMT -6
Could be wrong, but based on the renderings I've seen of the outside, where the floorplan shows the suites, and the fact the floorplan doesn't show a front door, I think that floor plan is of the top floor. It is also lacks the team locker room which I suspect will also be on the bottom floor.
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Post by jsu02 on Sept 19, 2023 19:32:04 GMT -6
Could be wrong, but based on the renderings I've seen of the outside, where the floorplan shows the suites, and the fact the floorplan doesn't show a front door, I think that floor plan is of the top floor. It is also lacks the team locker room which I suspect will also be on the bottom floor. Concur.
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Post by pascal on Sept 19, 2023 22:32:03 GMT -6
I had never noticed that the front door is on the bottom floor rather than on the top floor as it was in the old football complex. I could say I was using the European method of floor numbering where the entry floor is the ground floor and the next one up is called the first floor, etc. But no one would believe me!
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Post by jaxstate_student25 on Sept 19, 2023 22:43:56 GMT -6
This is my 1st post, but I've been following this page for a while now.
1st I am feeling confused about what they are doing to the football stadium on the visitor side. I love the initial renderings but obviously that isn't happening 😠but every time I check here or ask someone they all say something different and it progressively gets worse or cheaper. With that in mind, are the updates even going to be nice? I know this question is going to be useless because it seems that no one knows, but what are they going to do?
2nd what is the inside of the new facility going to look like? I haven't seen any renderings, but they would probably change them a thousand times 😂😂 and will the public or students be allowed to go in?
3rd not a question but I think it would be cool if they put an LED ribbon board (I think that's what it's called) in front of the new seats at the facility
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Post by pascal on Sept 19, 2023 23:28:12 GMT -6
This is my 1st post, but I've been following this page for a while now. 1st I am feeling confused about what they are doing to the football stadium on the visitor side. I love the initial renderings but obviously that isn't happening 😠but every time I check here or ask someone they all say something different and it progressively gets worse or cheaper. With that in mind, are the updates even going to be nice? I know this question is going to be useless because it seems that no one knows, but what are they going to do? 2nd what is the inside of the new facility going to look like? I haven't seen any renderings, but they would probably change them a thousand times 😂😂 and will the public or students be allowed to go in? 3rd not a question but I think it would be cool if they put an LED ribbon board (I think that's what it's called) in front of the new seats at the facility 1. Visitors' side - I, too, am confused
2. See the post at the top of this page and click on the link.
3. A ribbon board would be nice.
4. Welcome!
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Post by jsu02 on Sept 20, 2023 10:34:11 GMT -6
This is my 1st post, but I've been following this page for a while now. 1st I am feeling confused about what they are doing to the football stadium on the visitor side. I love the initial renderings but obviously that isn't happening 😠but every time I check here or ask someone they all say something different and it progressively gets worse or cheaper. With that in mind, are the updates even going to be nice? I know this question is going to be useless because it seems that no one knows, but what are they going to do? 2nd what is the inside of the new facility going to look like? I haven't seen any renderings, but they would probably change them a thousand times 😂😂 and will the public or students be allowed to go in? 3rd not a question but I think it would be cool if they put an LED ribbon board (I think that's what it's called) in front of the new seats at the facility They are going to add back some form of seating to replace what was prematurely removed. They want some of that seating to be premium, but set you expectations very, very low. They will also remove the old press box.
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Post by leeroy on Sept 20, 2023 10:35:56 GMT -6
Are the old red seats destroyed/scrapped?
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Post by Cleburneslim on Sept 20, 2023 12:47:03 GMT -6
Are the old red seats destroyed/scrapped? I'd pay money for a set, but I'm sure they went to the scrap yard. Or worse the dump.
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Post by sprout203 on Sept 20, 2023 14:51:45 GMT -6
if I am not mistaken, the field has to shift or the new field house will be "off center."
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Post by jsu02 on Sept 20, 2023 16:27:05 GMT -6
if I am not mistaken, the field has to shift or the new field house will be "off center." If it sets off your OCD too badly, I can get you help for that 😇
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Post by jaxstate_student25 on Sept 20, 2023 23:56:27 GMT -6
I wonder how long it will take for them to acknowledge our existence and put one here 😂😂 we all know that P5 schools are the only ones that matter 😂
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Post by Cleburneslim on Sept 21, 2023 2:47:37 GMT -6
I wonder how long it will take for them to acknowledge our existence and put one here 😂😂 we all know that P5 schools are the only ones that matter 😂 View AttachmentI'm sure that's after the long anticipated unicorn breeding facility. But Im real sure this may be the location of the bourbon slide.
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Post by Whup Em All on Sept 21, 2023 11:21:48 GMT -6
I just posted this as a reply on another thread, but it fits this overall thread better, so I moved it:
I don't want to rush too quickly to defend the University here, since they've made PLENTY of blunders in regards to the way they've handled capital campaigns and capital improvement projects in recent years.
But just for this specific case... let's look at the north stands project:
1) The original renderings included both the football operations center (field house) and a dorm/dining hall project, all of which would be tied together and would stretch from the field house location around the corner down Trustee Circle for 100-plus yards. This project (and its associated renderings) was ABANDONED due to cost, both due to the supply chain issues going on a year or so ago (Remember those? When you were a rich man if you owned a couple of 2x4s?) and due to the building engineers informing them that this particular stretch of Trustee Circle is a horrifically lousy place to build a dorm, and would need probably millions of dollars of improvements just to be sound enough to lay a foundation.
2) With the original idea abandoned, the University chose to put the dorm over by Crow Hall and the dining facility on the former site of Weatherly Hall, between Curtiss Hall and Mason Hall. The football operations center would be a standalone project. So the field house was demolished and construction began.
3) Now here's where the confusion begins. What fans wanted was to see a "STADIUM improvement project" which included both the field house AND the north stands. What we got was ONLY the field house. The University failed here to say, PUBLICLY AND ON THE RECORD, "We're working with the architects to come up with a totally new plan for the north end of the stadium, which will include demolition of the old press box as well as new luxury seating options. Construction on this new project is expected to begin shortly after completion of the football operations center." What we DID get, publicly, was crickets. "Hey everybody! Look at progress on the demolition of the field house!" "But what about the old press box?" "Did you see this drone video of a crane knocking down a wall of the old field house?" "Yeah, but the old press box?" "Wow! Would you look at that hole in the ground! That used to be the field house!"
4) So while I'm as irritated by that last bullet point as everyone else, I'll play devil's advocate on this point. Since construction on the north stands wouldn't be slated to begin for at least 2 years from when the original project was canceled, the University was not faced with a rushed deadline to come up with an alternate plan for this side of the stadium. They've been able to research and discuss innovative new ideas (such as a version of MSU's "The Balconies") which may work better in the limited footprint available, and have been able to take their time to insure that, at the end of the day, this project is befitting of an FBS stadium. Since these discussions are ongoing, there are no renderings to release or public statements to be made regarding concrete plans for the north stands. But this should not be confused with "lack of a plan" or "not knowing what they're doing". When they have something to release, it will be released, and -- one hopes -- it will be awesome.
5) With devil's advocate now played, I'll jump back to critical fan mode: it boils down to COMMUNICATION. I understand (as I'm sure most of us would) the lack of hard details and renderings about the new project. If they were releasing statements on a regular basis stating the current ideas being discussed, it WOULD make them look totally incompetent: "We're planning to have 10 luxury suites!" "No, five luxury suites and a new concession stand!" "No, a concession stand and a press area..." "Hey, we're back to ten luxury suites and a concession stand! The architect thinks he can do this!" "Scratch that plan. Engineers didn't agree. Screw this! We'll just do chairback seats along the entire stands." "Someone mentioned adding a bourbon slide! We've all started drinking heavily and think this is a swell idea! We're also replacing the visitor's locker rooms with a unicorn breeding facility. It will be the first of its kind in Alabama!"
6) So we've established that releasing hard details during the planning stage is a bad idea. But so is ignoring this project completely. We have deprecated renderings floating around that show a monstrous dorm/suites/seating project that's never going to be built, with very little if any public statements from the University about what WILL be going there instead, or even that it's still actively being designed. We have no ETA's on when we can expect renderings. We have no public, on-the-record statements about what HAS been decided, or when we can expect little things like when the old press box will come down. It's not incompetence. It's a lack of COMMUNICATION.
7) Communication, it seems, is tied closely to another core concept which has historically eluded Jacksonville State. It starts with an "M". We offer a degree in it. Maybe someone should talk to those guys.
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Post by Whup Em All on Sept 21, 2023 11:28:35 GMT -6
if I am not mistaken, the field has to shift or the new field house will be "off center." Someone on the CUSA board pointed out that the football operations center is off-center anyway. Not the location of the footprint -- the design itself. The northern half of the new field house has three sections. The southern half only has two. It doesn't bother me much, but folks with OCD will probably go nuts. LOL. I'll admit, it is difficult to un-see. Hopefully, it won't be as noticeable in person as it is in the renderings.
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