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Post by gemofthehills on Oct 31, 2023 13:20:17 GMT -6
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Post by jsu02 on Oct 31, 2023 13:38:02 GMT -6
Haven't heard the Temple part before...
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Post by smith79jordan on Oct 31, 2023 13:54:03 GMT -6
Ehhh, this is exhausting enough on the CUSA board. Let's leave it there until something more concrete emerges. I also can't fathom Temple turning down AAC money to come to us. I think that's just a Delaware fan just talking.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2023 14:16:29 GMT -6
Hey that message board is toxic too. They want to go to the Sunbelt. Lol.
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Post by troysux on Oct 31, 2023 14:35:12 GMT -6
I wouldn’t mind having Delaware in the conference with us.
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Post by stevo on Oct 31, 2023 14:49:47 GMT -6
Temple would drop football before joining CUSA. Then join the Big East or Atlantic 10.
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Post by bigboi on Oct 31, 2023 19:11:01 GMT -6
If we have enough teams to make divisions, I pray JSU is in the same division as Liberty and KSU.
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Post by Whup Em All on Nov 1, 2023 7:20:52 GMT -6
If we have enough teams to make divisions, I pray JSU is in the same division as Liberty and KSU. I'm not as worried about KSU. Even if we wound up in separate divisions, this game would almost certainly be a "protected" rivalry game. I'd just hate being in a different division from Liberty and (depending how the lines were drawn) MTSU and WKU. It'd be like the Sun Belt. So many folks want to be in that conference because they want to play teams like App, Ga State, Ga Southern, Coastal, and JMU every year. But troy state is in the Belt and is in a division with Louisiana, ULM, Texas State, and Arkansas State. I guess Southern Miss is cool, if you're over 50, and USA is at least in-state. I'm just saying, be careful what ya wish for, folks. Not gonna speculate too much on the UD/UMass/Temple thing -- I will say I agree with smith79jordan on Temple -- but if we did add three eastern teams, it would almost certainly signal that either NMSU and UTEP aren't long for this conference, or backdoor negotiations with CBS and/or ESPN are promising a substantial revenue increase in exchange for the increased inventory and near-coast-to-coast league footprint. Also... if this UD-UMass-Temple rumor has legs, it means we'd only need one more eastern team (EKU?) to complete a 14-team conference with balanced east-west divisions: EASTLiberty FIU KSU Delaware UMass Temple EKU WESTJax State WKU MTSU La Tech SHSU NMSU UTEP We'd end up in the West, but we wouldn't be alone -- we'd be with WKU and MTSU. Protect the KSU rivalry (and the WKU-EKU rivalry) and suddenly, this would be a pretty nice looking conference. (Sorry, Tarleton, SFA, and Mo State.) I still don't buy it, though. Besides... something tells me if we somehow did add three strong academic schools like UMass, Delaware, and Temple, CUSA would end up inviting Mo State over EKU. Sure, it'd make the conference stronger (across all sports), but it wouldn't be nearly as much fun. |
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Post by Whup Em All on Nov 1, 2023 8:12:19 GMT -6
OK, I just saw a thing from Matt Brown which may explain how Temple entered the chat.
First off, the whole thing is ridiculous. Let's get that out of the way first thing.
It looks like it's related to a proposed 24-team MWC proposal which includes the remaining PAC teams, the entire MWC (including Hawai'i for football only), all the central time zone American teams (including UAB), and a selection of other -- primarily lesser -- teams. Temple, notably, was left out of the plan.
So if you believe the MWC plan is happening -- I don't, nor do I believe it would EVER happen -- then Temple would be looking for a home. And if UMass and Delaware were coming on board with them, CUSA would start to make some sense.
If there's anything beyond this that could be driving Temple away from the millions more dollars they'd stand to make by remaining in the American, I haven't heard it. Which makes the whole thing even more suspect than usual.
UMass and Delaware are actually talking to CUSA. How seriously? No one knows. But I don't think Temple is anywhere near the room, let alone on the table.
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Post by stevo on Nov 1, 2023 9:33:05 GMT -6
OK, I just saw a thing from Matt Brown which may explain how Temple entered the chat. First off, the whole thing is ridiculous. Let's get that out of the way first thing. It looks like it's related to a proposed 24-team MWC proposal which includes the remaining PAC teams, the entire MWC (including Hawai'i for football only), all the central time zone American teams (including UAB), and a selection of other -- primarily lesser -- teams. Temple, notably, was left out of the plan. So if you believe the MWC plan is happening -- I don't, nor do I believe it would EVER happen -- then Temple would be looking for a home. And if UMass and Delaware were coming on board with them, CUSA would start to make some sense. If there's anything beyond this that could be driving Temple away from the millions more dollars they'd stand to make by remaining in the American, I haven't heard it. Which makes the whole thing even more suspect than usual. UMass and Delaware are actually talking to CUSA. How seriously? No one knows. But I don't think Temple is anywhere near the room, let alone on the table. Saw the non subscriber portion of the article. The original part looked a couple months old since it mentioned Cal, Stanford and SMU. Was JSU mentioned at all since JSU is in the central time zone? Also was UTEP and NMSU in that 24? |
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Post by Cleburneslim on Nov 1, 2023 20:52:57 GMT -6
It appears to me matt brown posts a lot of chatter from chat rooms. Whatever seems more reasonable to him. Sometimes right sometimes terribly wrong. There's always excuses/reasons to not be held responsible for wrong predictions/hearsay.
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Post by troysux on Nov 2, 2023 5:10:41 GMT -6
The whole promotion/relegation concept sounds fun on the surface but I don’t see it working out in reality. You can argue the merits of which conference is better and never settle it. But if you are in the conference that is officially designated as the one for teams who suck it’s going to be hard to market (there’s that word again) that.
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Post by stevo on Nov 2, 2023 8:58:19 GMT -6
The whole promotion/relegation concept sounds fun on the surface but I don’t see it working out in reality. You can argue the merits of which conference is better and never settle it. But if you are in the conference that is officially designated as the one for teams who suck it’s going to be hard to market (there’s that word again) that. Alot of smoke going on about the promotion/relegation concept. When the PAC 2 court case gets decided Oregon St and Wash St are going to get serious about forming a new league (still might use PAC name). The ripple effect could touch JSU in a good or bad way. Hears a chance for a few JSU fans, Troysux, Slim, WHUP and whoever, to dream up a west division and an east division. Not sure how many schools in each. Let's stick with football only for now. |
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Post by Cleburneslim on Nov 2, 2023 17:15:43 GMT -6
The whole promotion/relegation concept sounds fun on the surface but I don’t see it working out in reality. You can argue the merits of which conference is better and never settle it. But if you are in the conference that is officially designated as the one for teams who suck it’s going to be hard to market (there’s that word again) that. Alot of smoke going on about the promotion/relegation concept. When the PAC 2 court case gets decided Oregon St and Wash St are going to get serious about forming a new league (still might use PAC name). The ripple effect could touch JSU in a good or bad way. Hears a chance for a few JSU fans, Troysux, Slim, WHUP and whoever, to dream up a west division and an east division. Not sure how many schools in each. Let's stick with football only for now. Notice this: the wac died simply because they were confined to the west. They attempted as you might recall a last ditch wac east plan involving Jax St and Eku with some others but that fell through and the wac virtually died as an fbs conference. If the pac 2 wants to survive as an fbs conference I believe it will have to do what the wac couldn't, a true bi or tri coastal conference with divisions. So the question will be who can or will go. Will the money be good enough for the AAC and MWC teams to make the jump? Will the Pac maintain an autonomous status? If yes to both they will backfill with AAC and MWC schools. If no that leaves schools from the SBC CUSA or possibly Mac. Either way it will be based on market and only secondarily performance. If it's the AAC schools involved, Birmingham is a good market and the best for football If it's the SBC and or cusa Jax St is in the best market. Either way Jax St could be moving to the Pac or the AAC. Cross your fingers perhaps we can get a raise. |
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Post by Cleburneslim on Nov 2, 2023 17:20:33 GMT -6
I'm calling it again Jax St to the Pac12 or 24 or whatever.
Ps relaxation / promotion is a stupid idea.
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