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Post by smith79jordan on Jan 28, 2024 15:13:54 GMT -6
SBC is the lowest level of FBS it is not who you aspire to be. Can you stop with that? We're all proud to be in CUSA, and it's fine to be a homer for our conference... but saying the SBC is the lowest level of FBS is just nonsense. They've put together a great model for G5 conferences to imitate going forward... going against the grain of "big markets and huge money" and instead going for geographic rivalries and athletic success... and they've proven it works. They just finished as the #1 G5 conference in football, ahead of the AAC and MWC. JSU has been on the SBC's short list of additions for many years, and have probably moved up that short list now. We had an opportunity when Wright Waters was the SBC commish to accept an invite around 2005, but our admin didn't want to pull the FBS trigger. So there has always been a good connection between our admin and the SBC, and still is, which is actually a reason why we're starting to see a lot of scheduling agreements with their schools. If you want to call a conference the lowest level of the FBS... look toward the MAC. The Sun Belt isn't it. Very much agree the MAC is the worst. For every insult hurled at CUSA, the MAC does it worse.
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Post by Scotti from Jax State on Jan 28, 2024 18:07:26 GMT -6
Attending is trending down at some schools because of price. You want to know why UAB doesn't have good attendance? They charge full price for newborns. My kids have no idea wtf is going on at a football game and shouldn't have to pay $35 a ticket in a mostly empty stadium. JSU is very lucky in that regard. This is true. I work at UAB, so I decided to give it a shot and try a game. We went to the NC A&T game: $35/ticket (even for my 5 year old), $25 parking,$15 domestic beer, and a $7 bottle of water. I practically had to take out a mortgage just to watch them beat up on an FCS team.
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Post by Cleburneslim on Jan 28, 2024 19:28:37 GMT -6
Called it over 2 weeks ago! Called what?
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Post by Cleburneslim on Jan 28, 2024 19:29:13 GMT -6
Excellent interview.. definitely worth the listen.
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Post by brother on Jan 28, 2024 20:24:02 GMT -6
It may be time to order one of these. Whup Troy
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Post by jsumania on Jan 28, 2024 20:47:39 GMT -6
Called it over 2 weeks ago! Called what? That JSU and Troy admin were putting together a series.
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Post by gemofthehills on Jan 28, 2024 21:02:20 GMT -6
SBC is the lowest level of FBS it is not who you aspire to be. Can you stop with that? We're all proud to be in CUSA, and it's fine to be a homer for our conference... but saying the SBC is the lowest level of FBS is just nonsense. They've put together a great model for G5 conferences to imitate going forward... going against the grain of "big markets and huge money" and instead going for geographic rivalries and athletic success... and they've proven it works. They just finished as the #1 G5 conference in football, ahead of the AAC and MWC. JSU has been on the SBC's short list of additions for many years, and have probably moved up that short list now. We had an opportunity when Wright Waters was the SBC commish to accept an invite around 2005, but our admin didn't want to pull the FBS trigger. So there has always been a good connection between our admin and the SBC, and still is, which is actually a reason why we're starting to see a lot of scheduling agreements with their schools. If you want to call a conference the lowest level of the FBS... look toward the MAC. The Sun Belt isn't it. I disagree. Having low perfromance teams in one group doesnt make it good. They are all alike.
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Post by gemofthehills on Jan 28, 2024 21:04:25 GMT -6
That JSU and Troy admin were putting together a series. Thats been mention since the first talks of going FBS.
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Post by jaxstate_student25 on Jan 28, 2024 21:15:09 GMT -6
In football we just need to do what all of the SBC schools, minus App, are doing just post a bigger number. If you believe those attendance numbers you have never been to a SBC game. Cant speak for basketball as Ive never been to a SBC hosted game. JSU is better off than most SBC teams now. If you went to the bowl game and didnt notice the JSU crowd vs the ULL crowd it was huge gap. JSU had quite a few more and several more hours of travel required. SBC is the lowest level of FBS it is not who you aspire to be. And yes JSU along with all of the other G5s will lose players to the M2 and P2. M2 will lose players to P2 teams and soon the M2 will become closer to G5 schools in revenue and brand value. It will be P2 then everyone else is DII and no good self respecting player will turn down a P2 offer to play at a M2 or G5 school. Everyone wants to be recognized as good and the top level gets the top level players. JSU has a long ways to go and yes we are behind in some areas but we have been FBS for only 2 years (transistioning), Give us a few more years and a couple of home games against a upper level known opponent and fandom will grow. Hoping Greg is holding a card (game) to host when the stadium is finished remodeling.Aren't we finished this year after the field house and north stands? At least for the foreseeable future? Maybe some touch up here and there but I haven't heard anything about any future remodeling plans. Attendance is trending down practically everywhere - even power 4 schools. More to do with millennials not having the same interests as us old folks. I think we're planning an indoor practice facility, one of my professors said so, a new field, and hopefully a new video board
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Post by Cleburneslim on Jan 28, 2024 22:10:17 GMT -6
I was a little surprised that seitz openly speculated on the top 65 teams splitting off. Not that it's not evident but because of his connection to the NCAA. It's a done deal in my opinion.
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Post by gemofthehills on Jan 28, 2024 22:32:00 GMT -6
Not sure there are 65 teams that should be included in a split, may as well take 140.
If a split occurs should be around 35-40 and several of these will not be competitve only on the ride for the money.
Take the SEC and BIG plus maybe UNC, Clemson, FSU and maybe a VA school and an AZ school. Guess Notre Dame will get to go too. The B12 doesnt have any schools who need to be included unless you take one AZ school. ACC other than the ones listed is out of quality schools, no need for another FL school in Miami (FL). If your despreate and want basketball schools you may take a few more but no need. Start your own basketball tournament and the best players will come to the split schools.
Just hope we get to stay at the DII level, which is where we truly are today.
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Post by jsumania on Jan 28, 2024 22:41:14 GMT -6
Can you stop with that? We're all proud to be in CUSA, and it's fine to be a homer for our conference... but saying the SBC is the lowest level of FBS is just nonsense. They've put together a great model for G5 conferences to imitate going forward... going against the grain of "big markets and huge money" and instead going for geographic rivalries and athletic success... and they've proven it works. They just finished as the #1 G5 conference in football, ahead of the AAC and MWC. JSU has been on the SBC's short list of additions for many years, and have probably moved up that short list now. We had an opportunity when Wright Waters was the SBC commish to accept an invite around 2005, but our admin didn't want to pull the FBS trigger. So there has always been a good connection between our admin and the SBC, and still is, which is actually a reason why we're starting to see a lot of scheduling agreements with their schools. If you want to call a conference the lowest level of the FBS... look toward the MAC. The Sun Belt isn't it. I disagree. Having low perfromance teams in one group doesnt make it good. They are all alike. That's your homerism speaking. Hard to call that a low performance group when they finish as the best G5 conference. Those are some hard arguments my friend.
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Post by Cleburneslim on Jan 29, 2024 6:20:46 GMT -6
Not sure there are 65 teams that should be included in a split, may as well take 140. If a split occurs should be around 35-40 and several of these will not be competitve only on the ride for the money. Take the SEC and BIG plus maybe UNC, Clemson, FSU and maybe a VA school and an AZ school. Guess Notre Dame will get to go too. The B12 doesnt have any schools who need to be included unless you take one AZ school. ACC other than the ones listed is out of quality schools, no need for another FL school in Miami (FL). If your despreate and want basketball schools you may take a few more but no need. Start your own basketball tournament and the best players will come to the split schools. Just hope we get to stay at the DII level, which is where we truly are today. I agree I think the big and Sec it will be. Some of those teams should be left behind but they won't be. They will take who they want to add and split.
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Post by Cleburneslim on Jan 29, 2024 6:21:25 GMT -6
It may be time to order one of these. Whup TroyMaybe when they spell it right.
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Post by gemofthehills on Jan 29, 2024 6:28:36 GMT -6
I disagree. Having low perfromance teams in one group doesnt make it good. They are all alike. That's your homerism speaking. Hard to call that a low performance group when they finish as the best G5 conference. Those are some hard arguments my friend. Its not homerism but I have not drank the SBC Kool Aid being served for the last 2 years. I guess you missed the bowl season. How do you are anyone get they are the best G5? That is being unrealistic at best.
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